If you think the media have the knives out for the Government, then you’re dead right, says Michael Taylor, who has spoken to a deep throat in the industry.
IF YOU THINK there’s been a media campaign to discredit the Gillard Government, then you’re on the mark. It has not been your imagination. A source, a senior media executive I cannot name, but for the sake of this article I will refer to as ‘Peter’, has revealed the strategies used and the motivation behind them.
He says that the main reason is the NBN:
“The Murdoch media has been leaning to the right since the Whitlam days but the anti-Labor meme was really ramped up just before the 2010 election. The catalyst was Murdoch’s luncheon with Tony Abbott, where the NBN (National Broadband Network) must have been the main talking point as the very next day Abbott publicly announced that he’d rip up the NBN.”
Apparently Abbott almost gave the game away by his over-eagerness:
“He pissed a few of us off by jumping too soon, thinking that people might tie the announcement to the meeting with Murdoch, which luckily they didn’t. The NBN will effect Murdoch’s profits, and let’s be very clear on that, so the reason to back Abbott was clearly motivated by money for the media empire.”
The source said Tony Abbott is not easy for the media to sell, but they are doing their best:
“Tony Abbott is hard to sell as a politician, so we sell him as a person. He looks the goods as a loving family man or a fire fighter, but hopeless as a politician. He can’t control his mouth. For example, yesterday he announced that he wouldn’t rule out an alliance with the Greens. It’s going to be hard for us in the media to sell this after a couple of years of trying as hard as possible to discredit the Greens.”
The media focus, according to the source, is to unsettle the Government and often this is done by creating fictitious leadership rumblings:
“Our main focus though is to try and unsettle the Government. Leadership spills are always a winner. You’d have noticed that the Rudd factor has been our agenda (again) since the Prime Minister announced the election date. Anybody with half a brain would know that a PM wouldn’t announce an election date while there are leadership rumbles in their party. There weren’t, so we had to create them, and it is working.
“We are under instructions to hammer the leadership woes at every opportunity. When the results of a poll hit the press we take any opportunity to throw in a paragraph of how the results will add to speculation of a spill.
“It’s all because the emperor wants more money”.
I asked Peter what he knows about the ABC’s sudden right turn:
“Not a lot, but I’ve noticed that Tony Abbott is the first person they run to whenever they want to hear something about the Government, but that’s about all. Oh yes, they seem to treat him as off-limits when it comes to any scrutiny, just as we do. Has Mark Scott whispered in his ear about funding should Abbott win? I don’t know. Murdoch certainly has. Don’t underestimate the power of money.”
“And Fairfax?” I asked.
“Probably the same motivation; money. We’re not privy to what Tony Abbott has negotiated with the power brokers.
“It’s just our job to bring about a change of Government. It helps the boss, so it helps us.”
Peter and I chatted a bit longer, about such things as the Ashbygate outcome failing to incite the media, but from what he’d already told me, the answer to that is quite simple.
Shocking, isn’t it, that the election outcome is for the benefit of a few wealthy individuals?
When the above was reported on Café Whispers, it raised a few eyebrows as well as attracting a number of sniggers, as one would expect. However, the appearance of this brilliant piece by Kieran Cummings the very next day, Why Murdoch’s media is gunning for your NBN got to the heart of the matter. The article kicks off with:
It seems a day doesn’t go by where articles are being posted to News Limited (Murdoch) websites with nothing but negative spin for the NBN. Most, if not all, are founded on poorly constructed arguments that ignore technology & the reality. They all seem to point to one solution: anything the Coalition are saying they’ll deploy.
While this does reek of patent bias amongst Murdoch’s Australian arm, I feel this goes a little deeper than just wanting a Coalition government, but a fear of becoming obsolete in the age of IPTV (Internet Protocol Television).
And on March 2, anybody listening to Radio National’s AM program would have heard the Shadow Minister for Communications and Broadband, Malcolm Turnbull say that
“…there’s an election in September; there’s a reasonable chance there’ll be a change of Government … so … in order to ensure that we have the flexibility to accommodate any changes in Government policy that might arise from a change of Government, [NBN Co] should not enter into contracts…”
It was all coming together and people were coming out of the woodwork. ‘Peter’ had some friends also prepared to come out about his employer:
Yes, there is some breaking news… Tony Abbott has lunch at News Ltd HQ every week.
Incredulous I asked the person to repeat it.
“EVERY week, in private,” to discuss the latest “Get Gillard” strategies. No wonder there’s such a seamless segue between what News writes and what Abbott parrots. He’s dealing with the enemy. They’re writing the script for him.
It’s not a fuck-up. It’s a fucking conspiracy.
But, sources must remain confidential. I’m not going to tell you just WHO told us that bit of news.
I have it on the very highest authority, however, given without hesitation… in fact, volunteered by someone with no ostensible axe to grind, but should know it to be true. It’s this person’s job to know Abbott’s movements, in detail”.
How prophetic was Margo Kingston (in The AIMN interview):
“Fairfax, the ABC and even Crikey are too fucking timid to do anything to upset the powerful. It’s up to social media. And there are journalists in the traditional media who secretly admit that the new, independent media is the way of the future and we must join with them. We need to build a bridge between the new media and journalists who see the corruption within the mainstream media. We need to collaborate and work together. We can do this by luring traditional journalists into the new media and free them of their shackles. If we do this, one day we in the new media will look back and be grateful for the decisions we make today.”
It looks like it’s happening.
PS: I’ve contacted a source who might have more info on the Abbott/Murdoch meeting in 2010 and am awaiting a response.
(You can read more by Michael Taylor at Café Whispers or follow him on Twitter @MigloMT.)

This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Australia License








47 Comments
Highly plausible and even more stupid of Labor to go ahead with the NBN. First rule in agnlo saxon politics: keep News Ltd happy. Only arrogant fools believe that hey can win such fights. Look at the UK: Blair was doing well, with News blessing. Arrogant and unsaleable Brown did not. Now Cameron and Milliband fight (discreetly) for the honor to resolve News’s temporary public ralations problems.
Is it so hard to assess the strengths and weaknesses of your own position?
Yeah! And? LOL
Bleedin’ obvious.
Even though the source isn’t named, I absolutely believe this. In fact, a couple of weeks ago, while watching the project, their regular right wing journo, Steve Price , commented that even though there wasn’t really leadership troubles, there would be if they kept banging on about it. They’re getting more brazen by the minute!
Well yeah
Abbott is not only owned by Murdoch, but the entire corrupt criminal elite oligarchy.
Mining, insurance, finance, military/industrial, drug companies, gambling, tobacco, construction etc. He’s gonna owe alot of favours that’s for sure, & it will be the dumb punters that will have been conned into voting for him that will pay. And the rest of us
Seditious intent.
The definition of “seditious intention” originally in Section 24A has become (as amended):
An intention to effect any of the following purposes:
(a) to bring the Sovereign into hatred or contempt;
(b) to urge disaffection against the following:
(i) the Constitution;
(ii) the Government of the Commonwealth;
(iii) either House of the Parliament;
(c) to urge another person to attempt, otherwise than by lawful means, to procure a change to any matter established by law in the Commonwealth;
(d) to promote feelings of ill-will or hostility between different groups so as to threaten the peace, order and good government of the Commonwealth.
Can we prosecute as a civil action? Class action?
i recall a few years ago pm gillard had lunch with murdoch over in the USA, it was around his birthday. perhaps an intrepid investigator could get some info on this from the other side and ask her if the nbn came up in that meeting, specifically any request from murdoch to stop building it.
news ltd can’t deny trying to interfere with our free democracy, they’ve already made public the goal to destroy the greens party. what’s one more party (labor).
“Highly plausible and even more stupid of Labor to go ahead with the NBN.”
You’ve got to be kidding me Kangxi. Two points:
(1) The Lib network proposals are horse and buggy technology designed to preserve the market hold of payTV. It can’t compete with the NBN which is unquestionably one of the best infrastructure moves this or any government could make.
(2) Ok, so you expect News Ltd to screw Labor so the government’s got to at least appear to play nice, but that sure as hell doesn’t mean rolling over and taking anything the old wheezer wants to poke into you. If a confrontation can only be avoided by giving up your entire political program then just have the confrontation and get on with it.
No attribution to @BushfireBill? He’s the one who broke the story originally. A first class effort.
Class action? If so geezlouise, I’m in!
There’s a post today on the ABC from Cynthia Banhem on Obama’s drone program and UK government efforts to take terrorism and intelligence related matters into private courts and out of public scrutiny. http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4558324.html
Notably, the ABC held the post open for comments for only one day till 5pm, not even overnight. I’m not sure of the reasoning here but I’m damn sure of the unsatisfactory outcome in terms of public debate. The commenters there are unfamiliar with the background of Anwar Awlaki and so have to respond with generic terrorism nonsense. Here’s the claims:
* Iran is [sigh] building and planning to use nuclear weapons [no evidence at all].
* Jihadists are a threat to global peace and any means can be used to kill them [no distinction between Shiaa (next to none) and Sunni (most of them), and that Iran is Shiaa and our ally Saudi Arabia is backing Sunni jihadists in Syria].
Sec.State John Kerry has explicitly threatened US military attacks on Iran over a non-existent nuclear weapons program. When the war ramps up it will be preceded by a firestorm of propaganda about an ‘immediate threat’ to the West etc. Yet we can’t even get the goddammed ABC to conduct any open debate except during business hours and for one day only. Have they decided that the Middle East is simply in the too hard basket? Have they decided to put foreign affairs on the back burner in favor of domestic politics?
btw, I’m also not impressed with Alan Kohler’s fulsome praise of the US economy based on their share market levels. Not even close to what is happening in the real economy. Has the ABC gone all Reader’s Digest all of a sudden?
re the NBN- I perceive that News Ltd’s very obvious anti-NBN strategy has the capacity to backfire.
There wouldn’t be a voter under 40 who doesn’t dearly want the fast speeds of the NBN.
There wouldn’t be a business in Australia that doesn’t want the fast speeds of the NBN.
Having just purchased an Ipad for a 68 yr old lady pensioner who has never been near a computer but has taken to the Ipad like a duck to water- she now pesters me about when she will get even faster internet access.
Malcolm Turnbull knows he has been given a turkey to sell and it’s apparent heart isn’t in it.
I think the LNP are making a grave mistake by keeping the NBN in the public’s mind : it reminds them of what they will eventually get which they won’t with the LNP (although I guarantee they would keep the scheme going).
The public just isn’t that silly and are very net savvy and want the fastest internet possible.
##and the Nine network tonight saying “Julia Gillard mobbed by fans in West Sydney”. So much for the polls.
Kangxi
I agree with your observations if
{a} the only object is to gain power.
There are some other laudable issues, like fairness,compassion, equality, morality etc.
The Labor party / Greens have this.
The LNP DO NOT
The key phrases words with regard to fibre are symmetric (same download/upload speed), contention-free (doesnt slow down with lots of users) noise-free (distance from exchange isnt an issue) and, when comparing to wireless, perfect reception (ie reception quality is irrelevant). In all the focus on download speed, the F.U.D spreaders invariably ignore symmetrical uploads and zero contention/congestion.
The biggest factor for massive benefits offered by the NBN is cheap delivery of bi-directional video conferencing and symmetrical Wide Area Networks (WANs) and VOIP.
The goal when discussing the NBN should be to ask people to look beyond their own personal, selfish interests and think of the entire country. In particular, consider the massive cost savings for regional areas. This affects everyone, because many utilities, government services and businesses pay big bucks already to deliver regional services. These costs are directly and indirectly borne by everyone, not just the recipients of the services.
Additionally, the massive direct and indirect costs borne by residents (and their employers and families) in regional areas, every time they have to travel to a major city to obtain a service not available in their locality, will be significantly reduced by the NBN once services are delivered over the NBN. Services which can be delivered via video conferencing will revolutionise regional economies, especially for the poor. Cant do that without the NBN.
Many journalists in the mainstream media seem to be poorly informed philistines who have very little knowledge of scientific or technological issues. Their main skill lies in stirring pots. Their collective fear of the NBN is palpable, particularly those who fear for their jobs in a post-NBN world where most media will be delivered via the internet. And the mainstream media is easily infected by memes, particularly memes based on hoaxes, spin and disguised marketing. Any opportunity to spread FUD about the NBN is embraced enthusiastically without impartial evaluation or even rudimentary attempts to be properly informed and understand the actual issues.
This is also reflected within the wider community. Even now, most people have no idea what ADSL or NBN actually means. If you mention the word Asymmetric (the A in ADSL), eyes glaze over immediately. The Coalition and MSM exploit this ignorance ruthlessly.
Re the ABC: aside from the political leanings of Mark Scott, fear of the NBN seems to be a dominant factor driving the ABC and (indeed) anyone who works in the media. FUD over the NBN hits the media right on their most vulnerable part: their career. The NBN will certainly hurt the media barons, but for all the right reasons. The FUD associated with this cannot be underestimated, especially for ABC employees with an eye for the future – what are their options if they leave the ABC, given the vindictive nature of News and Fairfax towards prospective employees? Best to show your media-mogul-friendly credentials at all times….
Media employees compare their future under Labor with their future under Abbott and they see a man willing to do the bidding of Big Media. Abbott is Their Guy.
This doesnt need to be said aloud or written directly. It’s already implicit in the groupthink and it’s instinctive/primal.
“We’ll all be rooned” is contagious…..and it’s easy to propagate FUD about the NBN because many (most?) do not understand the technologies and (consequently) do not see the vast benefits to business and govt services (health, education etc) made possible via the NBN.
The Coalition’s ‘wreck the NBN’ approach is no less than outright war on education services, health services and regional business. Turnbull has the miserable job of shilling alternatives which are anti-business. But Turnbull and Abbott arent solely to blame – they are just exploiting political opportunities. Last I heard, Abbott has someone print out his emails so he can read them – the man is a Luddite. The reason they get away with spreading anti-NBN FUD is due to the media themselves.
Things can only improve once we get Andrew Bolt into a chaf bag along with Alan Jones and drop them into the ocean
I think it’s a no brainer that the Coalition will sell the NBN. They will need the money and having already sold the silverware, this is one of the few big ticket items they can use to hock off for quick cash.
Murdoch and his crappy News Ltd is without a doubt taking control by stealth: Channel Ten’s new CEO hand picked from Rupert’s office, “Meet the Press” outsourced to News, aggressive/acrimonious interview techniques by ABC’s Leigh Sales, Chris Uhlmann and Mark Simpkin, Charlie Pickering (The Project, Channel Ten) set up a twitter tag “Talk To Us Tony” because Abbott was afraid Pickering would be a tough inquirer, what a huge anti-climax: the softest interview I’ve seen with Abbott! Shame on you Charlie.. I watched the show for your punch ups with Steve Price and trying to get an interview with Tony and trying to find an alternative to the ABC, only to be left feeling totally deflated!
Ted Baillieu resigns the premiership of Victoria. No screaming headlines in the papers. Story appears on page 4 of The Telegraph. Two inch article on page 4 of SMH under huge headline “Designer cleared of murder”. Does have a bit of prominence in the Financial Review but, notably, atop “Labor braces for run of budget deficits”.
You can always tell when Tony’s on the back foot: on Baillieu’s ousting he denies any comparison with the NSW disease or Rudd’s execution – and wheels out “the girls”.
Tonight’s 7.30 opened with the story of abuse in the defence forces. Obviously a hugely important story but, had this been something titillating in Labor, it would have been screamed from the roof tops.
And so we have Gina’s musings in a mining industry rag comparing Australia to Greece, Spain and Portugal. Give me a break! Growth estimated at 3.5% over 12 months, low interest rates, unemployment with a 5 in front, inflation with a 2 in front, a high $AU (yeah, not good for manufacturers/exporters but good if you’re heading OS on holiday).
What’s not to love about the Australian economy and the government’s over all management?
The Mardi Gras used to be a progressive event but last Saturday I overheard many LGBT individuals making horrifying comments about the Prime Minister.
Murdoch’s twisted thinking has infected all aspects of Australian society.
geezlouise count me in too.
And yes interesting to hear from a deep throat, but what we need is action.
The medias bias has been extraordinary particularly Fairfax, News Ltd always obvious.
Great, but huge article on the NBN by Nick Ross on the ABC, obviously high jacked on the first page by Lib apologists.
I live in rural Vic and I want the NBN yesterday. Copper network is dead. We just waited nearly a fortnight for the landline to be fixed, not sure why we bothered. But besides dial up or wifi that’s it for us.
Murdoch is a pig, least he won’t be around for much longer age isn’t on his side. But no doubt another greedy ruthless mongrel ready to take his spot.
We must NOT let his forces oust this govt.
Anatomy of a 457 smear
* Identify a target: British citizen working in PM’s office. This individual has for months previously been identified as a problem in MurdochWorld ™. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/our-egalitarianism-silences-the-class-warfare-guns-of-labors-spinner-in-chief/story-fn8qlm5e-1226499530878
* locate an issue of 457 Visa taking away Australian Jobs. http://www.australiaforum.com/information/jobs/new-report-hits-out-at-foreign-workers-taking-new-jobs-in-australia.html
* As a side issue get a colleague to demonise foreigners http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-ducks-questions-on-asylum-seeker-protocols-20130305-2fi2b.html
* As soon as Federal government moves to fix the issue you have raised, change to:
* Create an issue over 457 Visas discriminating against foreigners. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/andrew-bolt-pm-is-demonising-genuine-foreign-workers/story-e6freal3-1226591817524
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/now-it-is-julia-gillards-turn-to-stir-fear/story-e6frg6n6-1226591048868
* Ridicule PM( Gillard) and LOTO (Abbott) (both foreign born) of demonising themselves. http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1743550/Calls-on-Abbott-Gillard-to-end-the-birthplace-war
Benefits
Attacks target in PMs office, potentially weakening PM http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/libs-target-pms-office-in-visa-attack/story-fn9hm1gu-1226590657504
Attacks and ridicules PM, reducing her authority (and the wags will say she had none to start with, but this propaganda campaign has been going for years). http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/pms-critics-make-a-mockery-of-political-debate-20130301-2fbi7.html
Media can ignore LOTO who can remain under cover, out of sight and gaffe free. Oops: in my seat (Boothby) a question by a 9 year old just stumped him! http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/child-stumps-tony-abbott-with-tactical-question/story-fn59niix-1226591943765
Summary.
Mostly successful. Particularly the seamless transition between ‘457 Visas discriminate against Australian workers’ to ‘457 visas discriminate against foreigners’. A Win/Win for LNP and Media, A lose/lose for PM and Federal Government.
Assessment Grade 9 /10.
Lost marks because allowed LOTO out of confinement. Do not let this happen again.
Geezlouise I wanna join too.
Its time we changed their “behavioural Protocols” as Dipstick Scott Morrison would say
A couple questions:
Why would a News Ltd hack be talking like this?
“luring traditional journalists into the new media”..
Of what use would these habitual liars be?
I have said all along over 2 years now in the SMH when making a comment that Tony Abbott was involved in a sedition and should be charged with inciting a rebellion to bring this government down. Unless they didn’t know what sedition meant, they went ahead and published them. Demagogue is another word I used to describe him,but now SMH wouldn’t publish anything that portrait Abbott in this way.
Is there any way that this article can be released to the Guardian Australia ? Everyone should be able to get access to this without anyone breaking the law.
The government maybe should be able to do something to expose Tony Abbott, the demagogue he is.
Why do you think Joe Hockey lost weight, because he knew for certain they are going to be the next government, he is going around as if he is the king pin, he has certainly changed his personality not that he had one before. Any way what ever we are allowed to do I will do it. THEY HAVE TO BE EXPOSED. ANY CHANCE OF SQUEEZING SOMETHING IN TO THE GUARDIAN UK.” LIKE MURDOCH AND ABBOTT IN A CONSPIRACY WITH NEWS LTD TO MAKE SURE THE OPPOSITION LIBERAL /NATIONALS GETS ELECTED ON THE 14th SEPT ,OR RING IT IN TO THEIR NEWS DESK. WE NEED MORE THAN A LEVESON ENQUIRE.
Thus the
“News Cycle” exhibits the warped dynamics of the Moebius strip.
This story should be front page in the Guardian – with everything that has happened in the UK with Cameron and Ruperts business dealings.
Kangxi (or is it Sun Tzu?)So we can’t have the IT infrastructure that South Korea had ten years ago because some geriatric living in the States doesn’t like it and everybody’s frightened of him?
An amusing thought occurred to me on reading this: suppose Abbott doesn’t win the next election, despite having more propaganda put out by his supporters since the days of the late Dr Goebbels, wouldn’t that be a hoot, and wouldn’t it show what a dork he is?
@geezlouise
There would be a justice in utilising the laws that John Howard brought in to curb our liberty, and use it against those he was trying to aid and abet and gain back a mediocre of civility in our Nation again.
If you can get it into the Courts with a good chance of success (if true Justice is still possible), then count me in.
I have mentioned on my face book this morning for them to read the Article on the IA, then pass it around their friends to read it . I know it will be read in the Gold Coast, the UK, and Europe. if that is any good, but we need someone to leak it to the guardian UK and the Observer. We know The IA will do everything to stop this tyrant from becoming the next PM. Reading the SMh this morning Mr Swan wants an enquire into Costello’s involvement in the QLD self interest saga and Campbell Newmans part in it. good on him.
Tony Abbott has to be brought down, the whole front bench and the media.Go for it IA. cheers
I think IA would prefer to not be involved in the politic, beyond just reporting the facts and letting the People make up their own, now truthfully as possible, informed mind.
“Thus the “News Cycle” exhibits the warped dynamics of the Moebius strip.”
Now I know why I have felt for so long that we were all on a road to nowhere.
*sigh* All those years wasted listening to my poor deluded Parents “wisdom”. I should have picked it up earlier, as they just loved the Daily Terror *cough* Telegraph.
[...] The fix is in, the media have chosen their anointed one [...]
Good article but it would be nice if the sorce revealed thselves. They would become a hero.
Rudd tried to win over Murdoch by offering him the Australia Network (overseas news service still being run by ABC). Didnt happen luckely.
As more and more people get smart phones they can experience what wireless speeds are like especially as the system gets congested. This should make it harder for Turnbull to sell his turkey.
And regarding Turnbull as a person, I have lost respect for him because anyone that goes along with the dirty tactics of Abbott simply exposses themselves as having no core principles.
What the government needs to do is keep explaining that fibre is not subject to congestion, and transfer speeds are guaranteed to be consistant. Tell the public it will be the only way to experience holographic projection which will be a reality in 10 years time, but needs huge data capacity and speed to work.
There will be winners and losers if an NBN is built. There maybe a chance for democracy to rise again because at the moment we have the media barons controlling the outcomes.
I have been reading the criticism on ‘The Conversation’ about Michelle Grattan’s biased writings. Today, one of the comments at the end of the article referred other commentators to read this article and from that a number of people DID read it, and comments flowed from that. The word is being spread.
Unfortunately this article is very depressing to read but it certainly rings true. I was a subscriber to the Australian for about four years, but I finally cancelled as I couldn’t cope with the unfair bias.It is full of vitriol and hatred. I can’t believe how politics in our country has been allowed to descend to this level of bias and absolute lack of respect for our Prime Minister. Its not very pleasant at the moment, when the government is not allowed to govern, instead huge companies use their power, as in Murdock with his media empire, the gambling industry and the mining industry also challenge every decision the government makes by taking them to the courts, and the process is allowed to linger for years – anything to stop the elected government ( that they don’t want) doing their job.
I wish lobbyists were banned as they all seem to be a law unto themselves.
I’d be ashamed to say i was a jurno their hated now in Australia more than Murdoch himself.
There was an article in the guardian UK last night showing Murdoch on the front page. That was an ideal place to put something in on this conspiracy with himself and Abbott. But, there was no room for comments otherwise I was gunning for him, check the article out, he was making sure that all these people waiting to be tried or on bail from his leveson inquire he was going to pay them. That would have been just the place to expose him. I’m just going to the page again to see if there are comments to be made.cheers.
“I wish lobbyists were banned as they all seem to be a law unto themselves.”
Vote for Politician’s that will do exactly that and you may get your wish. Just ask for them to to put it down in a way they can be held publicly to their pledge.
We are Democracy. They are Plutocracy. What system we get, depends on what we vote for. We only have ourselves to blame for everything that happens to us from here on.
Hugo Chavez battled against a tide of privately owned media but he’s depicted as a ‘dictator’ because he funded a government outlet that told the truth.
We don’t even have an independent government outlet anymore.
It seems everyone is pinning their hopes on The Guardian.
Why will they be any different ?
@ cornlegend
I understand waht you mean but what is the point of taking on a stronger opponent. Mr M is not a monster, he is the controlling investor of a global business that has -over time- maybe due to lax policies of previous gvts on both sides and benefiting from generally uninterested and hedonistic audience, built up something
(a) they do not want to lose their legacy business (a ALP NBN is much more of a threat than Turnbull’ abut for most people, Turnbull’s is quite enough. The LNP technology is widely elsewhere used and I happen to have a relative who gets 12 MB out of his fibre to the node, which is fast enough for watching HDTV.) not because they want to wash your brain, but because they like to have a good return on their investment
(b) Sensible Labour leaders like Blair understood that you cannot beat a dominant media conglomerate (and do not expect those poor souls at the ABC to sacrifice their livelihood for the ALP cause).
A party that tries to do the impossible is silly, especially when the objective is far outside what most people want right now (maybe later).
Kangxi. Your Mr M is interfering with democracy. By instructing his news? services to report only part of the facts he is deliberatly misleading his audience. This is serious and what bad dictators do. Do you want to live in a democracy where everyone has a right to be heard? It seems not as you are willing to be a slave to master Mr M.
Regarding a good return on investment that the libs have sold you, what a joke! The libs never invest in the future, only what is barely necessary. And many Australian businesses are the same. Other countries like Germany and Japan and USA pour huge amount of government and private money into research and development and reap the rewards with strong industries. We are relying on the mineral wealth but it isn’t forever so the labor government knows this and is supporting other potential industries like nano technology, renewable resources, medical research, agriculture, etc. The libs just want to dig more holes.
The NBN will prepare Australia for the future (2020) and will mean we will be ahead of many countries giving us an efficiency advantage. That is value for money. Beeing ahead of the pack. Do you play to win or come second? The Libs seem to think second last is good enough.
As they say do it right and do it once.
Kangxi What a lot of rot,
What do you want people to do, roll over and take it in the rear.
Your logic says that if I was bigger than you or stronger, I could take your purse or wallet. Because I can.
If I want to build a 10 storey construction next to your home, put a CSG rig in your backyard.
Just because you can, doesn’t make it moral, or RIGHT
Just a technical note for Mr Pajama Pudding. None of the NBN plans currently on offer are symmetrical, however their upload speed is far better than the equivalent ADSL VDSL plans. For example, the best that ADSL2+ can achieve is 24/1 while the closest NBN level would be 25/5. Ignoring the fact that, as you pointed out, ADSL rarely reaches that level and NBN delivers what you pay for, the 25/5 plan delivers significantly better ratio of upload to download.
so, why is this important? Well, the most common communications protocol used by the internet is TCP/IP and it is really poor when links are saturated. When your connection has as poor uplink as ADSL a simple upload intensive process like sending a large batch of email or uploading to YouTube can completely hammer your download, even if you add trying to download very little.
in short, current NBN plans good, LNP bad.
[...] I attribute this comment to geezlouise on my article on Independent Australia. [...]
Kangki. Please don’t mention Mr Blair he has gone down in our books, he is a nobody just filling his pockets while he can,
He licked Bush’s back side just like John Howard did.This man is into everything for himself ,nobody else matters. He has turned away from labor values I’m afraid’ And for Murdoch, his own Mother, Dame Elizabeth didn’t like him her own son, she would turn in her grave if she knew what he was doing to Australia politics. It’s about time he butted out of our lives . What he and Tony Abbott are doing is shameless and that’s being kind.
This Government is a good government , but listening to Murdoch’s puppies it’s the worst Government ever. He should have been put behind bars long ago for all the evil he has caused to people who stands in his way , The MSM and the News LTD are cowards they meet in private discussing how to get rid of this good Government through a conspiracy, propaganda every day . WE ARE SICK OF IT AND THE TRUTH OUGHT TO COME OUT , IT CANT BE TOO SOON EITHER.
We can’t trust the Australian media, The Guardian will be fair, that is why they are far more trust worthy than NEWS LTD.
The Guardian is an Independent paper too, There is no justice here any more , who do we turn to apart from the Independent IA , They are the best, they tell it as it is ,the truth , the real facts, good on them and we hope everyone here donates to them because without them we would be in a dire state.
Watching Michael Krugar on Late line tonight was a good example of a propagandist , it is part of this strategies of theirs , Tony ABBOTT , Murdoch and all the media involved. How people can tick their boxes without flinching is unbelievable.
I’ll plead again
PLEASE GUARDIAN RUN THIS STORY IN THE UK.
INVESTIGATE
The whole of the UK would be interested in whats happening down here.(let alone other countries)
And it WILL give some weight to the current UK and US inquiries – when shown that its not just a “few rogue reporters” defense from Mur Dock.
Its all orchestrated on a grand scale – globally.
When exposed as a INTERNATIONAL crime syndicate, infiltrating governments and attempting to rig democratic elections on a global scale, declaring war on our wonderful scientists who are pleading with us to understand the dire circumstances that face us – and change fast. (alone this 1 fact should have the guy locked up – or at least stripped of his licences to publish).
Meanwhile the syndicate work against humanity and all living creatures.
For money.
Crime against humanity.
Its almost a sci-fi thriller…
But it IS happening NOW.
What does it say to the good poms that our “opposition” leader respects Rupert Murdoch and Lord Monkton more than any respected political leaders and institutions in the UK? (apart from David Cameron, his cronies including the police)
WE NEED HELP GUARDIAN
FAST
FACTUAL EXPOSURE – ANALYSIS.
Dont let our ship go down!!!!
The national dialog MAY start if you can expose this travesty of democracy that we face.
Seriously – there is a extremist tea party nut job, and a global crime syndicate attempting to take control of our country.
No overstatement.
Australia is heading for a dictatorship its now got to the stage where every radio station as well as Telelevision is rightwing, the crap that Murdoch and Fairfax get away with is criminal, why people pay good money for Foxtel is beyond me all they are doing is financing the very people who are dumbing them down,once Murdoch gets his hands on the NBN its over, as far as the ABC is concerned I gave up watching it when they have as a regular guest Peter Reith,Chris Uhlaman should have stayed as a security guard he is just a stooge like Andrew Bolt who knows how lucrative it is to suck up to the rich and powerful.
Chris, you talk about an “international crime syndicate.” I know who you mean (the big corporate overlords in media, finance, defense and health industries, global drugs and arms traders, the hard Right) and their hostile actions against the well being of the State and people in general. But it’s not a conspiracy in a way that most people think of the term. That’s because there is no overarching strategy decided by the players who have all explicitly agreed with each other on how to bring the world to it’s knees. Of course, many times they do this, but mostly they represent disparate interest groups who don’t always know exactly what the other groups are doing, but who recognize that some of their activities are likely criminal. They are into mutual back-scratching and pursuing their own ends.
The example I like to give is of a corrupt street bazaar where many traders know that trader A quietly sells pornography along with his regular trade in hardware supplies, Trader B is a second hand dealer but there’s a strong suspicion many of his goods are stolen, Trader C has been known to steal Visa details. Not everyone knows each others’ scams — or which are the decent traders — but they all recognize their common enemies. So when the police come asking about pornography, visa fraud or stolen goods, all the traders express a complete ignorance. In essence, you are dealing with a culture of criminality rather than an agreed conspiracy. These traders have removed themselves from their broader social obligations. What’s more, many of them do not see their behavior as criminal or, if so, then only at the margins. Many of them want to believe they are part of a broader, civilized society but fail to recognize that their actions attack the foundations of that society (think of current Lib politicians).
I say this because there is a false belief that if criminal behavior is exposed then the social mechanisms are robust enough to ensure that three things will automatically happen:
* the general public will rise up and defeat the crooks
* the crooks will mend their ways from a public shaming
* State regulatory mechanisms will bring them to heel
What makes the current global and national power structures so dangerous is that the public have little power to stop the crooks and have been fed so many lies that they have trouble recognizing them as crooks. The key business/political/criminals have become very powerful, their practices are ingrained and they have taken over the State regulatory agencies. The public will only take to the streets when, like the Greeks, there are no medicines on the shelves and everyone is out of work. And like Greece, the actions may be too late.
So, yes, by all means call out the crooks for what they are. But don’t be fooled that you will get quick or easy solutions, or that they are even possible. We are not dealing with conspiracy, but rather an entrenched culture of criminality, a subversion of the very foundations of society, a much harder problem altogether.
That being said, it’s still good to try.
For all its worth , At last I managed to get my bit on the guardian UK last night,the article was about The Labor party would win in the UK by ninety seat if they went to an election now. So I put my comments in there to do with Murdoch and Abbott, what is happening here in Australia right now. It went through ok so , just hopeful someone will read it and will enlighten someone (If that is the correct term for it) that will pass it on to whoever might want to take it further. Just go to the guardian and sign in, you too can make a stand .
We cannot get anywhere near the media here to report on this , I have tried with the SMH, and the rest , they just won;t publish anything to do with exposing Abbott so we go else where, where they will publish it. The IA has done a terrific job in exposing it , its up to us the people to act on it without involving them.
On another matter, I went on Face book last night onto Gillard’s Page, and posted my comment to her making sure she knows what goes on with NEWS LTD. then you should have seen the comment received back from the other side. I deleted them . I left my note to the PM until a bit later to make sure she sees it , then deleted it.
I might be a novice in all this technical stuff but one has to try. Cheers.
“First rule in agnlo saxon politics: keep News Ltd happy. ” I’m afraid i have no idea what the poster Kangxi means when he says anglo saxon politics. Is he referring to Bolt, Krugar Abbott of being Anglo Saxon ?? Or is he referring to Hitler German Saxon Roman Catholic who had the Roman Catholic Church behind him. A powerful leader who was very much like the Narcissistic personality Cults of Rogue Media owners who used papers and the radio as propaganda avenue’s to brainwash the Roman Catholic people of Germany who led the people to believe that Hitler was Godlike a man to lead his people to wealth and prosperity ?? The French Normans defeated the anglo Saxon King Harold in 1066 and a large number of French Normans came over with King Richard the 11. Queen Elizabeth the 1st is from a line of the Norman French Kings. So is the Queens Mother. Many of the Labor Party are French Norman not anglo saxon. Rupert Murdoch is of Scottish Ancestry. England abolished Roman Catholic as a religion and brought in the King James Bible in the 1600s and many descendents from UK are baptist, Anglican, Methodist. Murdoch only serves himself. Blair is a good friend of Murdochs. Blair converted to Roman Catholic. Murdoch donated millions to build a Roman Catholic Cathedral. He has the power behind the Roman Catholic order in Italy. Italy was an ally of Hitlers. Bernadi, Brandis, Barnaby Joyce Roman Catholic world order and wealth of GREED nothing else.
The 4 Corners program about Eddie Obeid and the corruption in NSW Labor just happened to be screened the day before Federal Parliament sat for it’s 2nd term,i listened to question time today in the senate,and the Coalition hammered Bob Carr and the Government for the whole hour on the 4 Corners program and Carrs role in it,perhaps im just too cynical? i dont think so,it was planned and executed to perfection.
[...] http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/the-media-campaign-against-the-government-revealed… [...]
[...] http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/the-media-campaign-against-the-government-revealed… [...]
[...] Taylor, M. (2013). The media campaign against the Government revealed. Independent Australia. from http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/the-media-campaign-against-the-government-revealed… [...]