One of Cory Bernardi’s Tea Party-style websites, Menzies House, has started promoting child labour as the panacea to Australian welfare dependency. Dan Gulberry from The Daily Derp reports.
Menzies House, the website set up by Cory Bernardi, of bestiality fame, to promote “conservative, centre-right and libertarian” causes, has shown that it’s not very “centre-right” at all. In fact, a recent post on the site suggests its way over there on the ultra-hard-right end of the spectrum.
The article in question, entitled “Child Labour Laws May Prove Punitive For Some”, written by an individual described as “a member of the Young Liberal Movement studying law at Macquarie University”, states that repealing the child labour laws would benefit children from poorer socio-economic backgrounds.
In the fourth paragraph, the author states, remarkably:
If a poor child were able to work from the age of 8 to 16 years old, they would accumulate enough money to take a family out of poverty. But not only does working solve the financial problems of poor children, it engenders a work ethic that has the potential to transform them into productive members of the workforce who contribute to society as opposed to the social outcasts they would have been had they remained at school.
Let’s examine that further.
Being a Tory, he undoubtedly would want these waifs to be paid minimum wage. The minimum wage for someone aged between 8 and 16 years of age is $5.87 an hour. Over a 38 hour week, this equates to $223.06 a week or $11,599.12 per year. Thanks to the Government raising the tax free threshold to $18,200 p.a., this amount would be tax free. However if a Coalition government is installed, as per Menzies House’s wish, the tax free threshold would drop back down to $6,000 p.a., which means the child would have to have P.A.Y.G. (pay as you go) instalments deducted from their wage of 15c in every dollar over $6.000. This equates to an amount of $16.15 being deducted from their pay. Thus they would take home $206.91 a week, or $10,759.27 a year. How this paltry amount is supposed to lift anyone from poverty is unclear. Even with the increased tax free threshold, no-one is going to live high off the hog on less than twelve grand a year.
Lets’ go back to the beginning of the article though, which actually starts out like it is in support of the Gonski reforms:
It is an unfortunate reality that our bureaucratic education system is trapping the poorest Australians into a cycle of dependency. Children born into poverty are maliciously trapped into a spider web of economic hardship and social unrest which they cannot escape because of a bureaucratic school system which fails to give them the only chance they possibly have of creating a better life for themselves.
As they have no prospects for work in an increasingly white-collar workforce, these young Australians are forced onto the welfare rolls from which they never leave, establishing a cycle of dependency that is both economically and morally irresponsible. For far too long we have neglected these Australians by saying that their futures are nothing better than a food stamp voucher. But as an egalitarian society fiercely loyal to the ideals of economic opportunity for all, all of us know that we can and must do better for these folks. They have futures, even though they don’t believe it.
In a country with a high level of economic mobility, even the poorest among us can strive for brilliant things, but unfortunately that can’t happen if one is trapped in failing schools that only entrench poverty. Whilst the need for a world-class education is paramount…
All well and good so far, however the concluding section of the third paragraph heads off in another direction entirely:
… one should also understand that education is not for everyone. For children who are trapped in schools that entrench poverty and add no educational value, they would clearly be better served by working from a young age and earning money that might help them reach a better tomorrow.
Ah, now we’re getting to the crux of the article. We’ve already covered the first bit of the fourth paragraph, so let’s have a look at how that one finishes up.
What’s more, the nurturing of the work ethic among the young poor can help nurture the leadership qualities in them necessary to be the entrepreneurs of the future which is so vital in today’s innovation economy.
Hmmm. Tell us more:
Jim Clifton at Gallup has pointed out that the key character trait among successful entrepreneurs is not imagination or intelligence but determination to succeed. He estimates that in any given community about 10% of the people have the drive and determination to be successful. The tragedy is that whilst there are incredibly creative people who work in an entrepreneurial way in poor communities they mainly work outside the law. They make money at drugs, gambling, prostitution or a variety of other profitable but illegal functions. They represent talent we need in legal society in the workplace. By exposing poor kids to real life experiences of hard work is a positive attribution; we can build an army of young entrepreneurs that will help us compete in the global knowledge economy.
Here we have all the Tory characterisations of the poor in a nutshell. “They make money from drugs, prostitution and a variety of illegal activities” apparently. If only they’d devote that energy to working in a Tory sweatshop, instead they could go on to be the next Bill Gates. What utter bollocks.
It continues:
Whilst work is clearly the answer to the poverty issue, the biggest obstacle remains the legal framework concerning child labor. The current Child Labor Laws are simply an out of date concept that, whilst having some contextual relevance in the past, does not do much good other than to trap the poor into a cycle of poverty. For that reason there is a strong case for abolishing the child labor laws and letting kids work to set themselves free.
Working for poverty levels of income apparently enables kiddies to break free of the poverty cycle, exactly the same way it has done for thousands of them in third world countries. Once again, utter bollocks. Also note the passage in bold lettering. We’ll return to that later.
In considering the case against Child Labor Laws, it should be noted that Child Labor Laws were created at a time when labor-intensive industries dominated the economy where the lack of worker protections in those days made child exploitation a serious problem. However in today’s changing world defined by a capital intensive where cheap labor is often outsourced to the third world, there is not the demand for child labor that there used to be in a labor intensive economy. Whilst the problem of child labor has gone away, the child labor laws still exist in full force as if it were still 1900. Any good that came from the child labor laws has long been exhausted, so ending the child labor laws is not only the economically rational thing to do, it is also the moral thing to do.
“It is also the moral thing to do”. FFS, has this clown never read Oliver Twist?
But helping poor kids to work means much more than simply ending child labor. We need to create a whole new cultural attitude towards the today’s’ youth that engenders a work ethic that make all of what I have described above possible. This can only happen through a series of policy mechanisms that make moving poor kids out of failing kids into the workforce economically rational.
One idea is to declare poor community areas opportunity/free trade zones that would waive all taxes and regulations on any businesses that decided to move into these communities. By making poor communities the centre of new commerce and business we can send the message to the economically and socially disadvantaged that Australia has not given up on you which is crucial to changing the inferiority complex of much of those in poverty. A rather interesting proposal that has recently been in discussion in this regard is the idea of providing a government subsidy for employers that employ poor children to ease any financial pressure on businesses doing the right thing.
The first half of the last paragraph seems to be advocating the conversion of poor suburbs into sweatshop zones. Great idea that one, mate.
The second half claims that “a government subsidy for employers that employ poor children to ease any financial pressure on businesses doing the right thing”. Doing the right thing?! This implies that business won’t do the “right thing” unless they get a government handout. Is he saying businesses are welfare queens? Or that doing the right thing imposes “unnecessary” pressures on businesses. Who knows?
This was written by someone who wouldn’t have done better than “more effort required” in my English class at school.
Anyway, this polished intellectual concludes with:
Whilst these ideas may sound radical at first, the only radical notion on offer is the idea that we continue to let our poor spiral into a cycle of never ending poverty. It is a moral and economic catastrophe that needs to stop now. Its time for a serious discussion on poverty and that should start with the child labor laws.
No, bonehead, a discussion on poverty has to start and end with the growing inequality of the different socio-economic groups, and how we can best implement the recommendations of the Gonski Report to provide all Australian kids with a better education ― and not just the well off.
Now, back to the “work to set themselves free” comment.
Interestingly, the actual URL of the article is: http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/2012/11/-repealing-the-child-labor-laws-work-will-set-you-free.html.
Hmmm. Work will set you free. Where have we heard that before? Isn’t that the English translation for the German phrase “Arbecht Macht Frei”? It is indeed, and that exact phrase was located above this gateway:
How could anyone could be so stupid as to use this phrase – and especially in an article advocating the abolition of child labour laws – is well and truly beyond me, though it does give an interesting insight into the mindset of both the Young Liberals and Menzies House.
I, and many others, have added comment after this article, and I encourage more to do likewise ― to let these bozos know how seriously out of touch with reality they are. Add your comment here: Child Labour laws may prove punitive for some.

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I have empathy, but for young Liberals who know nothing but entitlement, yet despise the poor, it ends rapidly: http://t.co/NTRt4Fsh
Young Libs push even younger child labour laws | Independent Australia http://t.co/ZcfgoSIm #auspol #ausunions #WorkChoices
Maybe this is how you progress in the Liberal Party these days…
The text of the article in question has me somewhat suspicious, the references to “food stamps” and the poor making money from “illegal drugs, gambling and prostitution” have an American ring to them. Most Australians I’ve met think drugs are the domain of bikies and hippies, not the poor. Gambling is in nearly every pub, and prostitution is legal. At the end of the article he gives an example using Texas. Did this bloke even write the article, or was it sent over from some far-right US “think-tank”.
As I tweeted yesterday – this is Work Choices on Steroids!
I’ve done the child labour thing. Dry rolled oats for lunch,rubbing the import wax off cars, and detailing, racing stables. $12 a week.Soldier father dying in hospital untreated and un pensioned. Mum doing two and at times three jobs. Taxi driver- mum was the second woman taxi driver in Queensland. Don Lane ,the minister, blew his top when he heard how the first lady taxi driver was treated on application. She was official as soon as Don finished with them. She was pregnant, got bashed, put in the boot of the taxi and pushed off a cliff. Mum had quite a few incidences but survived. Taxi at night and day, golden circle cannery when they could fit her in and nurse at hospital and detailing cars. Up at 5.30, in bed by 10.30pm if she was lucky not to be on a night shift.
School was glorified baby sitting, forced to span one months work over 12 with some of the most weird passings for humans in teachers. The bright and active kids went to the wall with the not so,disruptive, or go fishing, those goody goodies who could watch a fly on the wall all day and found the schoolwork a challenge went on to become public servants and have life assured.
Underage working was useless and slavery and dangerous but for all school was worth , i’d rather be on a farm or finding my way working.grade 8 was interesting and the girls sweet as, after that, may as well have not gone except for tertiary demands.
JObs ,jobs, jobs, WE have created 1000 new jobs this quarter! 600 a week wage, 400 a week rent. Saints aren’t they.
To be honest, I’m starting to suspect it’s a case of Poe’s Law (“Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won’t mistake for the real thing.”) in action, and we’re all being trolled by the Right Wing of the Liberal Party.
Or at least, I hope that’s the case. I’d hate to think they’re actually serious about this.
“a government subsidy for employers that employ poor children to ease any financial pressure on businesses doing the right thing”
Sounds like they want to subsidize the rich to take advantage of the poor, there is NO way they would abuse this idea.
read the comments- they are mainly shocked by the article or think it is satire.
I’d like to think this a joke but I fear not.
I saw the economics journalist from the Australian on the drum last night telling Tim Flannery we should not be concerned about species extinction. “What does it matter if another bat goes xtinct?”
He was serious. Just goes to show how thoughtless people can be.
Good critique, but the Arbeit Macht Frei sign is over the gate at Dachau, near Munich, not Auschwitz. Dachau wasn’t a death camp (though enough people died there from disease and malnutrition) but the sentiment is the same.
The comments at Menzies House seem to have been removed. Perhaps the topic proved a little too hot, even for those rabid tories.
Oh no, spoke to soon, they’re back again.
I agree that we definitely need to be careful about child labour laws. However, I do not think it is a good thing that we prohibit children from working from a relatively young age, although in our current social environment it may be necessary thing.
Part-time work can be a great educator for children and develop self-confidence as well as competence that are valuable for life. Not to mention an understanding of the value of money (lost today with cheap and readily available credit) and the satisfaction and motivation that comes from making a meaningful contribution (beyond play).
I started work at 8 years old as a paper boy (and used to get up at 5.00 am to do rounds) and this was quite common for boys my age. Unfortunatly today there are few opportunities for young people to work like this, except perhaps in rural areas. The result is that young people do not start work until they are almost adults. And when they do, they get a distorted view of work and of work relations as the majority of jobs are in fast food or retail where there appears to be little opportunity to develop independence and show initiative.
I agree with Dan the motives of this push by the “Young Liberals” cannot be trusted. Nor can many employers or government departments be trusted to not prevent abuses of any lowering of the work-age limit. The sad result of this is that we really limit the experience of young people and add to the “coddling effect”. Similar to the problem of not letting them play in wild places as explained by Monbiot:
http://www.monbiot.com/2012/11/19/housebroken/
Note, for anyone interested in allowing their children to engage in meaningful work at a young age, I do believe they can run their own businesses earlier then the current employment laws allow.
I just threw up in my mouth.
You use to have had only completed year 5 for many trades in not so far back other days. Now it is nearly a university degree in anything.
This shite is straight from the US GOP & Tea Party so-called think tanks. It’s where the LNP get most of their ideas & inspiration. That & looking back to the 1950s.
Also this sort of shite demonstrates the evil & exploitation of uncontrolled capitalism & the myth that ever expanding economies is the only course for mankind.
It’s great that kids can do some work to earn some pocket money & learn some honest values & about being independent. Did that myself growing up. But this is about capital’s long held dream of creating & controlling a slave class.
The current LNP & affiliates led by the nasty bully Abbott are a dangerous mob of braindead zealots.
Wait what? LNP site Menzies House advocates child labour for the poor bc "work will set you free" http://t.co/i8eySSIv (via @independentaus)
Worrying as this article is, one can take heart from the comments posted in response to it Said in reply to other posters wondering if the article was satire PuffyTMD said:
“The website is real. From their blurb,
“Through the writings of young, ambitious but intelligent young men of the right, Aus Solutions attempts to promote the vision of a policy oriented conservatism through……”
Young men? No women allowed, or what?”
Still it is scary stuff that the Liberals embrace this mindset while expecting us to trust them with our lives
I wish i could find a closer connection between Bernardi and Menzies House than just a link to his blog, and articles of his which he has permitted them to publish on their site.
It doesn’t quite add up to it being ‘his’ website
Are there any other connections i have missed?
You mustn’t have looked very hard, Sal,
because it’s on the public record that Cory Bernardi, after a trip the U.S. to see how the Tea Party operated, set up 6 conservative websites, including Menzies House, as well as a conservative astro-turf organisation called CanDo.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/bernardi-busy-behind-grassroots-anticarbon-tax-movement-20111015-1lqj7.html
Barnardi wants to tax our working kids what a joke this clown really is.
The lib & bugs party can’t help themselves.
Education is wasted on the poor, according to (some) Young Libs: http://t.co/fzhu4arS #excusemewhileIthrowup
Sublime satire, except it's for real. Young Libs want to put poor children to work for min wage. RT @msmisrule: http://t.co/sTmvjRYg
Matthew Mitchell: I agree and I always remember how daily helping my Grandfather in his garden from an early age gave me a great insight into how some hard work produced results. It was very rewarding an enriching.
But put that into law and we have a problem.
Patoshea,
Oh I agree. There are forces at work that would have back to Dickensian conditions as quick as they could. But let us not ignore the fact that throughout history children have worked from relatively young ages until very recently (i.e until sometime in the 80′s I think?) without noticable negative effects – except when left to the mercy of capitalistic industrialists.
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