Contributing editor-at-large Tess Lawrence says it is time for Malcolm Turnbull to not only talk the talk to support gay marriage but also walk the walk — across the floor, when it comes to a vote in Federal Parliament.
IT IS an abomination that Michael Kirby is gay.
Ever since Malcolm Turnbull introduced me to him in Sydney decades ago, when Kirby was Chairman of the Law Reform Commission, I’ve been besotted and rather hoped he would one day leap into the closet and declare his heterosexuality. As if.
Kirby was in the company of a charming LRC colleague and by the time we had finished a cuppa or two, I think the feral conversation had a speed dating velocity that left one with aching jaws from laughter and from discussing everything from the likes of Kafka, the Durrell brothers, Plutarch’s Lives, Nefertiti, the source of the Nile, domestic violence, drugs and the burgeoning underclass, such as our homeless and the dismal health of our indigenous brothers and sisters.
The Judge would not remember the meeting, but I have never forgotten it.
Kirby has a powerful and sexually charged intellectual energy sheathed in a scholarly gravitas.
His wicked sense of humour, Richard Burton-type pockmarked skin, that sonorous voice, infectious enthusiasm and affable inclusiveness is surely very attractive. Period.
And I’m not the only straight in the village who thinks so.
Kirby is one of those homo sapiens who is compelling and attractive to others, regardless of gender or sexual preference.
He makes a fascinating study.
People who have the courage and conviction to go against their tribe are rare.
His comments and honesty about his personal life as a gay man, his public pleadings for a shared humanity, his professional life as a Judge, including 13 years on the High Court, and his sense of justice seems to me to have been balanced with the weight of compassion and empathy for the human condition.
Unshackled by the formal protocols of his former office, his own website and easy manner reflects his talents as a communicator and unjealous sharer of knowledge.
His championing of same sex marriage has imbued judicial logic into the public conversation and encouraged others to speak out in similar defence despite igniting hatespeak and controversy, as fear and loathing often does.
It has always perplexed me that the relatively recent, relatively western habit of the legal sanction of marriage causes much angst and such anger against those who support and wish to participate in same sex marriages.
We seem to become histrionic and self-righteous when discussing this subject and yet remain largely diffident to the hourly obscenities of war, death, injury, starvation, poverty, domestic and other violence, child pornography, sexual and economic slavery, asylum seekers, illiteracy, murder, animal cruelty and addictions to drugs, alcohol and gambling et al — all this in our own unkempt backyard.
Just switch channel or switch off. It’s all too confronting; says too much about us as a community.
And it ain’t pretty.
But hey, adults loving each other — whoa, don’t go there! Unclean, unclean. How dare they try to capture sacred ground upon which religions trample and over which they assume to have eternal leasehold.
I wrote about this is Independent Australia on March 20 and it was interesting how many political and public figures supported me ‘off the record’ but didn’t want to publicly declare their position.
I understand their predicament, but not their political and ethical cowardice.
I wrote of the notion of a ‘conscience vote’ and how I believed that all votes made by our parliamentarians should be according to conscience and not to party factions.
The time has come for all good men and women to come to the same sex aid of the people — not the Party.
It is clear that in Australia at least, the majority of us endorse same sex marriage.
I for one, am tiring of religious leaders trying to force us into the missionary position.
On Saturday, Malcolm Turnbull posted on his website the text of his 2012 Michael Kirby Lecture, delivered on behalf of the Southern Cross University in conjunction with the School of Law and Justice.
Those attending the sixth lecture paid $150 (corporate discounts available) each for the lecture and dinner event that also included Kirby signing his latest book ‘A Private Life’ reviewed by his former colleague Ian Freckelton SC in Independent Australia on November 20 last year.
In this telling review that is worth revisiting, Freckelton, a humanist and prolific author himself, recounted:
I first met “His Honour”, as I knew him, in 1981 as an impressionable and raw graduand in law playing a suitably modest role at the Australian Law Reform Commission, of which Kirby was the founding chairman. Of course, I had heard of him and was appropriately in awe. It was not an encounter that he would recall but it prompted him to apply the epithet “jesuitical” to a proposition that I advanced, when he was getting himself his morning tea, and by extension to me — after he had heard where I had been to school. I knew almost nothing of his background then and was not sure how career-endangering his assessment of me was likely to prove. Over the succeeding five years I learned more about him at innumerable meetings — where he critiqued my work and that of others; when he saved me from the civil libertarian onslaught of High Court judge, Lionel Murphy, in full flight; and at the annual Christmas gatherings, which he hosted at his harbourside home. Much later, I was to appear in front of him in the High Court. Aside from his obvious acuity and his extraordinary industry and breadth of vision, the memories of the early experiences of Kirby that endure for me are of his good humour, his frighteningly deft skills in chairing meetings and facilitating them toward an outcome that he recommended, as well as of his warmth and inclusiveness. The firm view of his staff was that Kirby had no personal life. He started work by 5.30am and worked long after even the keenest of us had long departed the Commission. It was almost inconceivable that he had the time or inclination for a relationship with anyone, of either gender. How wrong we were! There, all the time, deep in the shadows, was his partner in life.
Little by little, Kirby has allowed that impression to change, starting from 1999 when he came out in Who’s Who in Australia by naming Johan van Vloten as his long-term partner.
In his lecture, Malcolm Turnbull reflected upon the early beginnings of his long friendship with Kirby.
By 1977, I had been hired by The Bulletin and in order to make myself indispensable (I enjoyed a full-time salary) I proposed to write a weekly column on the law, which became known as The Officious Bystander.
It was suitably disrespectful, combining latest decisions and legislation with gossip from bench and bar.
And that was how I met Michael. He was chairman of the Australian Law Reform Commission. He was young, ambitious and above all interested in shaking up the law. He wanted to raise his profile, but he was then painfully shy.
Over the years he got over the shyness becoming, by judicial standards at least, quite an extrovert. But his first major media outing was a profile I wrote about him in 1977 – under the headline “the high flyer with the non-slip heels”. I tried to encapsulate Michael’s combination of intellectual and professional ambition with a deep and cautious conservatism.
He has always been seen as something of a radical in the law and so many were surprised when he became a strident tribune for the monarchist cause.
But why was he a monarchist? Murray Gleeson then Chief Justice of NSW and later of Australia had a typically economic answer to that question: “Ulster.”
Michael has also been a campaigner for what has been termed “gay marriage” and to his dismay this is how he is best known today not least because he is a gay man and has lived with his partner Johan for over forty year.
So I trust Michael will forgive me tonight if, rather than concentrating on some other aspects of his work in the field of human rights, I concentrate on the issue of gay marriage which is a particularly timely one given there are several bills in the Parliament which, if passed, would have the effect of allowing unions between two people of the same sex to be described as a marriage.
The traditional view of marriage in our society has been stated to be that described by Lord Penzance in the case of Hyde v. Hyde and Woodmansee….
And it was in the course of that judgement that Lord Penzance gave what has been an enduring definition when he said:
“I conceive that marriage, as understood in Christendom, may for this purpose be defined as the voluntary union for life of one man and one woman, to the exclusion of all others.”
Both The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald published an edited extract of Turnbull’s lecture.
Whilst inhaling, Turnbull was scathing of the notion that any marriage was
…undermined by two gay men or two lesbians setting up house down the road – whether it is called a marriage or not.
Agreed.
Regrettably, this aspect of the debate is dripping with the worst sort of hypocrisy, and the deepest pools are all too often found among the most sanctimonious.
Let us be honest with each other. The threat to marriage is not the gays. It is a lack of loving commitment – whether it is found in the form of neglect, indifference, cruelty or adultery, to name just a few manifestations of the loveless desert in which too many marriages come to grief.
And yet in an exhaling breath came this staggering utterance of contradictions:
A society that promotes freedom and equality under the law should accord gay men and women this right.
Many argue that the Liberals’ lack of a conscience vote means the gay marriage bills will not pass. I don’t think they have the numbers to pass, but I am far from convinced that in the present Parliament they would have the numbers even if a conscience vote were permitted.
It is important to remember that unlike the Labor Party, (the Coalition’s) members do not get expelled if they cross the floor.
So, in that sense, every vote is a conscience vote. However, in this case, because the leadership are not permitting a free vote, shadow cabinet ministers are bound to vote in accordance with the collective decision. If they want to cross the floor, they would be obliged to resign from the shadow ministry, and I do not propose to do that.
For the record, I think it unconscionable that this Parliament lacks moral courage to legislate and vote in favour of same sex marriage. A pox on all their diseased houses. They are as bad as one another.
But it is unworthy for Turnbull to even attempt to delude us into thinking that the Liberal Party enjoys the moral high ground because its members don’t get expelled if they cross the floor.
It is farcical when in the next breath he tells us that because leadership (read Tony Abbott) won’t allow a “free vote,” shadow cabinet ministers “would be obliged to resign” if they crossed the floor.
Turnbull makes all quite clear when he says “I do not propose to do that”
That is a great pity Malcolm Turnbull. It’s your call.
You’ve talked the talk.
Now walk the talk.
Cross the floor.
The Age’s Michelle Grattan, who it seems to me has sort of ‘manned up’ in the past year or two (or is it just me?) wrote that Turnbull’s speech defied the “Coalition’s opposition to changing the law.”
Grattan went on to say:
‘Mr Turnbull, a frontbencher who cannot vote for gay marriage because of Tony Abbott’s refusal to give Liberals a conscience vote...’
Excuse me Michelle? Wrong!
Mr Turnbull can vote for gay marriage. There is nothing stopping Mr Turnbull voting for gay marriage other than Mr Turnbull himself.
But as he has told us, even though he supports it, he has chosen not to cross the floor for reasons of political and personal expediency — and not out of a sense of justice or a matter of conscience.
Like many in this debate, Turnbull quotes the ubiquitous (Jekyll and) Hyde case and the infamous oft pirated and parroted quote of its Judge, Lord Penzance, that today still dominates this colony’s legal psyche and our skewed definition of marriage.
As mentioned before, it was in the course of that judgement that James Plaisted Wilde, later Lord Penzance gave what has been an enduring definition:
“I conceive that marriage, as understood in Christendom, may for this purpose be defined as the voluntary union for life of one man and one woman, to the exclusion of all others.”
Let us defer again to Turnbull’s legal expertise and explanation of the Hyde v Hyde and Woodmansee case:
In that case, brought in London, a man sought to have his marriage dissolved on the basis of his wife’s adultery. He had been married to his wife in 1853 in Utah, by the prophet Brigham Young himself, according to “the rites and ceremonies of the Mormons.” He subsequently left the Mormon faith and became a dissenting minister. In the meantime his wife, who had stayed in Utah, married another man also according to the Mormon rites.
The Court concluded that he could not be granted any relief on the fundamental ground that because Mormon marriages permitted polygamy any such marriage (even if contracted between a husband and only one wife) would not be recognised as a marriage under English law.
So why are we adhering to Lord Penzance’s ridiculous and opportunistic definition?
Because we are apparently still part of the displaced British Empire. Crikey, Canada chucked the Penzance definition 7 years ago and legalised gay marriage.
Why is no one listening to the likes of Alastair Nicholson, former Chief Justice of the Family Court who condemned clinging to the Penzance definition as far back as 2004?
Readers may be unaware that Lord Penzance may have been little more than a legal lackey for England’s Establishment, the Church of England, and indeed, the monarchy.
Both Wilde and his bride Lady Mary Pleydell-Bouverie (daughter of the 3rd Earl of Radnor) married in 1860, the same year that James was knighted.
They wed rather late in life in life for the times, when Wilde was 44 and Lady Mary was 35.
Lady Mary would have been considered a spinster, maiden aunt and embarrassment (if she’d been a Catholic, she might have been ‘donated’ to the Church) and James would have probably endured whispers about him being considered a ‘confirmed bachelor’ (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) and probably informed that if he wanted to further his legal career, he should find a wife.
They bred roses, not children, and their garden in Godalming was rightly famous for roses named for the couple.
Two of the more famous roses were rosa eglanteria and the unfortunately but apparently well-named rosa foetida.
Why one would enthusiastically produce a foul smelling rose may well have been but one of the bonding agents shared by the couple.
Wilde may have had more than a touch of the eccentrics about him.
He named many of his roses after characters in the novels of Sir Walter Scott and his literary bent neither began nor ended there.
He also belonged to a group of people who believed that the philosopher, scientist and writer, Francis Bacon (also a QC and Judge) was the real author of works attributed to William Shakespeare.
Wilde and his mates held Bacon, who was most likely a pederast, in high regard.
It may be mere co-incidence that Wilde’s marriage at 45 was the same age as Bacon when he married.
Bacon brought home his bride.
She was merely 14.
It is curious that someone with the surname of Bacon would die of pneumonia when conducting an experiment on the freezing of meat.
Wilde served the establishment well, especially in a climate of anti-Catholicism and agin the Church of Rome.
He was frightfully useful for the Church of England, in what became known as the ‘ Ritualist Controversy’ and for what has been aptly described as the ‘sensational’ Mordaunt Case, that was basically a legal cover up to protect a member of the Royal Family.
The scandal would leave Downton Abbey for dead.
Pivotal to this scandal was Lady Harriet Mordaunt one of the famous Moncrieff daughters, whose wild beauty and untamed natures reflected some of their Scottish heritage and landscape.
In 1866, Harriet Sarah Moncrieff married Sir Charles Mordaunt and whilst she took the marriage vows, she was clearly unable to keep them and by all accounts shared her voluptuous body and voracious sexual appetite with a number of lovers who regularly visited the massive country pile, Walton Hall, in the superb Warwickshire countryside on the lip of a lake.
These visitations took place mostly when Sir Charles was sitting in Parliament or on a fishing trip or similar distraction.
Lady Mordaunt, not unsurprisingly, fell pregnant and when subsequently confessing all to Sir Charles gave him a list of possibilities of fatherhood, amongst them the Prince of Wales.
His cobber Lord Penzance heard the case and although HRH was questioned by Lady Mordaunt’s counsel, her poor husband’s lawyer did not cross examine him.
Of course, all the blokes trashed Lady Mordaunt’s reputation in a polite way, and the polite way, that continues through the courts today, is to declare her bonkers.
Being bonkers obviously accounted for her bonking.
Of course, it is not the fault of the Dear Men or His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales.
So, this is just part of the legal heritage upon which, on this day, we proscribe same sex marriage and our febrile and hypocritical politicians refuse to take our views into consideration in preference to this pathetic legal precedence.
Grow up Australia. Grow up Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott and grow up Malcolm Turnbull.
Cross the floor, Malcolm.
Walk the talk.
You will take us with you.
We have gone from tugging our forelock to tugging our pubic hair in deference to Lord Penzance’s ridiculous ruling.
If truth be known, it was just as hypocritical and unjust then, as it is now.

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17 Comments
“I conceive that marriage, as understood in Christendom” Well there is the answer, how can religions object when a man, “I conceive” came up with the concept? How can anyone say god came up with the idea of marriage, they had weddings not marriages in the old testament, you know, the wedding feast of canaan, they used to habng the shhets out the window the morning after just to show more than an ego got stroked.
What gives heterosexuals the right to exclude others? I’m a hetero by the way, but I dont believe I have a right to exclude others from anything, nor they me.
As for the parliament, Tess, dont tell me you were under the misapprehension they actually go there to vote on stuff that wont adversely affect them personally.
It seems to me no one including the PM have the balls to do whats right.
PS love your writings, especially you mischevious playing with words
Dear OLDFART, you Darling.
Also, there are pots of examples in Ye Olde Testament where God or a Messenger visited someone in a Dream or
whatever and told them to sleep with someone else….other than their partner.
Who was it who was told to sleep with the Egyptian slave girl Hagar because his wife was ‘ barren’- a term I find so yuk.
We have to get real.
About the sheets – what about the Bishops and his mates watching and confirming coitus of the Monarchs and inspecting the bloodstained sheets to confirm the poor girl was a Virgin!
And all of the above forms part of the argument against same sex marriage!
It’s not compulsory.
I always argue that Jesus must have loved a rave up – turning water into wine for his Mum when the Bottle Shop was closed and they ran out.
Oldfart, I am dopey enough to think that politicians SHOULD vote for what is right for the people – not for the Party.
Just like I keep searching for Justice in the Courts.
I agree with you that Prime Minister JULIA GILLARD is so gutless on
this – as she is with many issues.
How must SENATOR PENNY WONG and her family really feel about her Party.
How could you have any respect for any of them?
* Thank you for your kind words about my writing and for your comment
I think many of us feel as you do.
#crossthefloormalcolm
Dear DAVECORBS, fab idea.
It is time Malcolm became a political cross dresser. Yes ?
If the origins of the marriage act are as I once heard related by a lawyer, then the marriage act is more about lust than love. Once upon a time there was no marriage act and young men and women, doing what came naturally, got married according to social custom.
However, there was a certain class of man, his Lordship, who had a habbit of visiting the village maidens in the evening and upon his death it was not uncommon for a young man from the village to knock upon the door of the manor to inform her ladyship that he was there to seek his share of the inherritance – a most distressing matter no doubt for her Ladyship and the rightful heirs of his Lordship. And so the good Lords and Ladies of the land thought it good that there be a legitimisation of marriage act to protect their property from the servant class.
And now there be moves in the land to amend the marriage act – an act that in its genesis was to do with property protection, not love – and there be heated debate. But the said debate simply seeks to legitimise a variant of the existing without recognising other forms of marriages that may exist in cultural groups within our land that members of those cultural groups may wish to have recognised.
For if we are to be a multicultural society should we not recognise these aspects of the society and provided culturally recognised marriages are entered into willingly and there are adequate protections for the rights of those within those marriages, then we still continue to discriminate. What currently do we say to a refugee family that may reflect a culturally acceptable form of marriage in their land of origin when they arrive – only one of your wives has legal protection/sanction?
As to the Hagar story – a socially acceptable form of surrogacy at the time, not condoned or commanded by the Almighty, a fact made clear by reading the story.
And as for ‘yuk’ terms, what about ‘illegitmate’ children? There may be illegitimate acts – rape, incest – but there is not such thing as an ilegitimate child. And ‘love’ child? If a child is born from a loving relationship – two people that love and respect one another regardless of marriage status – yes. But from a one night stand, a relationship (married or not) where one is abused and used by the other,etc. no way. Sorry, but the idea of labelling kids because of the actions of the parents rubs me the wrong way – and no doubt has its origins in the ‘Legitimisation of Marriage’ Act.
Dear KEN MARSH, you should be on QANDA – what a fascinating comment.
I’ll go to the end first, because I so agree with you. There are NO illigitimate children!
I have always found the increasing number of annulments in the Catholic Church repugnant, because they bastardise any children of the marriage.
Re the Hagar story – and in some circles, perfectly acceptable today, as we well know.
For Catholics, the Virgin Mary is surely the ultimate Surrogate.
Re the aristocracy dipping their toffy wicks below stairs, etc, well
one only has to look at the number of Fitzherberts, Fitzgibbons and Fitzroys ( children of the King ) to know that at least, some of those born ‘ out of wedlock ‘ were formerly acknowledged.
Was at a book launch in Sydney last night where Malcolm Turnbull spoke. Sad to see an intelligent, sincere and moderate MP hampered by a party of political loonies.
Dear OSCAR JONES, what was the book I wonder ?
There is no doubting Malcolm Turnbull’s intelligence.
That the electorate has lost patience with governance by political
faction is obvious.
If Malcolm is prepared to sacrifice his heart and conscience on the altar of political expediency in this matter, then he lends further credence to such indecent politicking and misrepresentation of the people.
Equality, like freedom, must be granted in absolute, in my book.
It ought not to be meanly fed in handfuls of stale legal crumbs.
By doing so, we are simply confirming that we regard some of our brothers and sisters the lesser among equals.
Cross the floor Malcolm.
Tess, all those ‘Fitz’s’ – born of noble women or serving wenches? Perhaps there was a difference.
Courtesy of a show on the ABC (Australian Story?)some time back, it seems the position of Royal Mistress was (is) one highly desired by some. And if one holds that position when His Majesty comes visiting the Lord of the Manor will pursue the manly sport of hunting while the Lady of the Manor entertains His Majesty.
On the subject of cultural marriages I have a friend, a medical specialist, who comes from Africa and has a Muslim background. His father had four wifes and it was not until my friend was 6 or 7 that he knew which of the four was his biological mother. The way he tells it he had a happy childhood.
The Christian missionary came and convinced his father to become a Christian. There was a condition – divorce three of his wives. The father never became a Christian. He could not see how a God of love would require that, for in his country the divorced wives would, in all probability, be forced to prostitute themselves to feed themselves and their kids.
Dear KEN MARSH, thanks for your comment that raises so many wonderful discussion points.
Perhaps you could share some light on the subject of the notion of men having multiple wives.
How is it that there seem to be few societies where it is acceptable for women to formally acquire four husbands simultaneously?
Dear KEN MARSH, from today’s AGE online: –
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/concerns-over-mosque-leaders-polygamy-post-20120711-21uu8.html
Dear Tess, the answer to your first question is simple. Same reason women in our culture still struggle for equality. I have no doubt that one reason is that of male status/dominant male. And in a society where there is no social security and women without a protector male have no support for them or their children the idea of being one of the four may be very attractive. The relationship with the dominant male may provide better security for the woman and her children than life with the poor man. And then there may simply in some cases be a shortage or men. All social factors.
Thanks for the link. I believe it supports my position. Women need to be able to enter the relationship freely and if there is a move away from polygamy in Islamic countries it may for some of the reasons given be seen unattractive here. Our social security system – not being one that I would want to be totally dependent on – at least gives some support that makes polygamy less of an economic necessity.
Violence? Happens in monogamous relationships and one has to question what impact on kids our socially accepted serial monogamy has. In some cases the whole relationship breakdown between parents, the intrusion of another etc sees kids treated as bargaining chips, unwanted encumbrances etc. It is not only polygamous relationships that have these problems.
If it were legalised it would help remove the stigma and might encourage more women from these cultures to come forward and for the matter, if need be, handled in the family court. If there was a will I am sure ways could be found to work with communities affected to work through the issues.
Then there is the legal reality. There is nothing in this country that prevents me living in what for all intents and purposes a polygamous relationship so long as I do not seek to formalise it. There is no law and no legal sanction against adultery – and that hurts people, including kids. So if allowing these relationships to be formalised and giving all parties the protections that exist in marriage, including the right to nominate beneficiaries to superannuation and make claims against an estate, we may actually end up with a fairer and more equal and decent society.
Do I live in this type of relationship myself or would I? No. I hold to what I see as the Christian ideal – one man, one woman, for life. But that is a personal belief I do not believe I have the right to impose on others through political sanction. Regarding Gay marriage, I have read stories of gay people that tell of their struggles to come to grips with their sexuality and to be treated as human beings that I have found quite moving. In a secular society we need to extend to them all the protections and rights of the law as other people.
Dear KEN MARSH, you are a man of reason and fascinating discourse.
And a great philosopher too and it saddens me that philosophy has been degraded in our education, daily life and work systems,let alone politics.
Reading your words about people already living in polygamous relationships, made me think of a case I am aware of, where the
male has impregnated a number of women.
At least five of those women and their children are on welfare benefits.
This male is not married to any of these women.
The community of course, is paying for those welfare benefits.
Whilst this may be galling to some,the conduct of their parents is not the fault of the children, surely.
In this sense,society has a duty of care for children. All children.
US LESBIANS OCCUPY POLITICS: –
A link to THE AGE online:
http://www.theage.com.au/world/fundraising-gives-us-lesbians-political-clout-20120712-21yli.html
ANOTHER ASPECT TO THE SAME SEX MARRIAGE DISCUSSION
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/the-case-against-legalising-samesex-marriage-20120714-2236g.html
TASSIE SAYS ‘ WE DO ‘ FIRST ?
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/tasmania-set-to-allow-gay-marriages-20120804-23mni.html
TASSIE GIVES THE THUMBS UP ON GAY MARRIAGE!