Doug Evans maps the overall Australian political scene — and makes some stark predictions about Australia’s future under an extreme rightwing Tony Abbott government.
IN political fortune telling self-delusion is not helpful — the stakes are too high. This is my reading of the available evidence of our immediate political future. I think that we are witness to a frightening convergence of forces in Australian political and social life.
I fear that the upcoming Federal election will not simply mark another disastrous lurch to the right in Australia’s political trajectory but that, because of its timing, it will actually be the point at which the lucky country finally runs out of luck. Tony Abbott, far from the malign but easily dismissed buffoon he is often portrayed as, is both the product and epicentre of what may well become a perfect political storm.
Let’s look at the main features of our contemporary political landscape.
First, there is the crumbling ruin of the ALP a former social democratic ‘workers’ party with a major identity problem. As we all know, some years back the party moved quite a distance to the right to a new, temporarily more advantageous, location in the political centre. As a result of this move, it has lost much of its original reason to exist and appears incapable of formulating a coherent new rationale to replace the original. This formerly important political institution, hollowed out by corrupt, undemocratic internal processes and shedding members faster than asylum seekers drown as a consequence of its inept, inhumane, poll-driven policies, seems unable to act to help itself. Frozen in the onrushing headlights of history, its fate seems out of its hands, likely to be determined by circumstances beyond its control.
Still in government in Tasmania with the support of The Australian Greens and with some hope of returning to power in Victoria courtesy the extraordinary ineptness and borderline corrupt practices of the unpopular Baillieu government, Labor seems certain to be booted out of power federally at the next election. This would of course make Tony Abbott PM, a truly scary prospect, but more of him later.
There’s nothing new or original about this analysis of the current state of the ALP. As long ago as 2009, I vented my spleen here over the implications of Labor dithering over climate change policy. The broader implications of Labor’s decline have been widely discussed over the last year or so and, to the extent that Australians think about such matters at all, I think the position summarised above is the dominant view of Labor’s current fortunes. Of course, there is plenty of angry denial from within the tent, but given that the rapidly shrinking Labor party can only seriously claim about as many members these days as a moderately successful AFL club, the counter-view has less and less credibility.
Gina Rinehart’s ongoing assault on the languishing Fairfax media conglomerate will, I surmise, either succeed or, in failing, destroy the Fairfax press we know it and have come to rely on. Either way, one of Australia’s two remaining sources of reasonably objective reporting will be removed or seriously degraded. The other source, our ABC, which is still bearing the scars from its culture war battles during the Howard years, will struggle on but for how long? What will a cash-strapped Abbott government – so many promises, so little money – do to ABC funding? The answer is obvious.
Third we have the self-satisfied, Australian electorate with its enormous sense of entitlement. Each and every perceived challenge to our incredibly comfortable, materially privileged, way of life that is able to be confected by the mass media produces a ‘Pavlovian’ grumpiness with the government in the electorate. So politically apathetic are we that a widely quoted and much discussed, recent Lowy Institute Poll revealed that just 60 per cent of Australians say democracy is preferable to any other kind of government, with only 39 per cent of 18 to 29 year olds supporting this proposition. So great is the confusion generated by the almost omnipresent propaganda from the megaphones of the right, that we are beginning to take to the streets to angrily denounce political initiatives clearly in our best interests and defend those that clearly are not. In this, as in so much else, we are following the lead of the US.
Fourth, and scariest of all is the timing of this gathering of malign forces. From the point of view of the climate crisis, it’s a question of act now or hang on tight as it’s going to be a rough descent into chaos that is unlikely to end well. The science overwhelmingly indicates that we are on track for at least a four degrees warmer world by 2100. By then, various critical tipping points will have been passed and the world may well be on course for a climate beyond the capacity of humans to endure and survive except, hopefully, for a remnant population clustered around the poles.
The International Energy Association, hardly a bunch of hysterical greenies, have given the world until 2017 to begin to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to give it a 50/50 chance of avoiding runaway climate change. Far from a minor player in this drama as the mouthpieces of the idiot right continue to assert, Australia has a starring role. Both of the major political groupings in the Australian political spectrum have done their best to avoid effective strategies in their response to this crisis but, as the Clean Energy Future legislation indicates, it has at least been possible to chivvy the ALP into something like effective action.
On the conservative side, however, the story is much worse. Abbott’s laughable Direct Action fig leaf is intended to do no more than assuage the consciences of potential Coalition voters with an interest in the topic. The behaviour of Coalition State governments during this brief period of waiting for the Federal political pendulum to swing back to the right is an excellent indicator of what we might expect under a future Abbott government. Yesterday, for instance, the LNP State Convention passed a motion to stop teaching climate science – or what they call “environmental propaganda” – from Queensland schools. Any reader of Sandi Keane’s excellent posts on Independent Australia understands that the response from the Tories at State level in anticipation of an Abbott victory federally has been disgraceful — nothing short of deliberate environmental vandalism.
There are many policy prisms through which to view the tug of war currently playing out in Canberra. I choose to highlight climate change firstly because this is the one I am most familiar with. Most importantly, however, I choose to highlight it because this is the big one, the big story of this and any other era in human history. The issue we can’t afford to ignore. The battle we simply can’t afford to lose — but are losing.
Fifthly and finally, into this seething mess, introduce Abbott and his band of humourless, talentless, right wing zealots. Effectively purged of any remnants of small ‘l’ liberalism, the Coalition is overtly taking its cues from the rabid Republican right over the Pacific, whose blitzkrieg pillage and rape tactics have brought politics in the US to its lowest ebb. The mass media is slavishly spreading the word. The big end of town is pouring in the dollars — which is another problem that the ALP has — not enough cash from a failing Union movement. The people have become an angry lynch mob, lapping it all up.
Abbott has already profoundly altered the Australian political landscape, probably forever, certainly for the worse. He has perfected the Howard art of dog-whistled approval for our most reprehensible national characteristics — think asylum seekers. He has conducted an unprincipled and mendacious blitzkrieg against a well-meaning and worthy – but, in truth, hapless – government of a level of violence that is new to this country and appears to have left the government, still a year out from election, more or less dead in the water — defenceless, dispirited and without direction. Aided and abetted by the mass media, Abbott has perfected the art of governing by continually fanning the flames of our selfish sense of entitlement and our innate fear of the other.
Daily we are reminded that only he can protect us from the dark unknown stranger who will come in the night to pinch your job, rob your home, assault your family and the message is being heard loud and clear. Abbott is a gambler with the crash through or crash audacity of a leader. He states a position clearly and simply (no headache-inducing complexity, thank you very much) and, publicly at least, he sticks to it.
Economists disagree with him on the carbon tax? They’re wrong. Naval men disagree with him on the practicability of turning back the boats? They’re wrong. In the ‘burbs and the bush the people lap it up. They see it as strength. With a strong man at the helm we can stop worrying can’t we? Abbott, by virtue of our peculiar political circumstances, has become a leader and, in uncertain, unsettling times, the nation cries out for leadership, for someone to convince us that he – we still can’t quite accept a woman as PM – that HE knows what to do and how to do it, so we can comfortably doze off again.
Of course, given a united Labor Party, a government with a coherent vision of a future Australia, a suite of policies to match and a popular leader in charge, Abbott would crash and burn. Of course, given a diverse and objective mainstream media and a politically aware electorate, Abbott would never have risen. We don’t have any of the above. We are not likely to get them in the foreseeable future and the mad monk is no figure of fun. He is simultaneously the inevitable product of our collective civic and political apathy and odds on to become the key figure in delivering its destructive consequences on us.
Faced with annihilation at the hands of the barbarian hordes of the right, how does the Labor party respond? Like a small, trapped animal with no possibility of flight. Lashing out mindlessly, all tooth, claw and noise, the contemptible moral and intellectual pygmies who have brought the party to this parlous state have decided that a campaign of disinformation in respect of The Greens is a good idea.
Their destructive threat to preference The Greens last at the next election shows that even with the looming prospect of a wipe-out at the ballot box, they are quite prepared to put at risk The Greens’ Senate balance of power — the last buffer between the Australian people and the deluge from the right that Labor ostensibly opposes. Should the Coalition achieve a majority in both upper and lower Houses we really will have the perfect political storm.
Tony Abbott hasn’t come to power yet, but all the indicators suggest that he will. For an indication of the values that will inform his government should come to power I suggest you conjure the memory of that vomit-inducing image of Gina Rinehart whispering sweet nothings in Abbott’s left ear. Now if you can stand it imagine Abbott’s other best friend, Archbishop George Pell whispering in the other. Barring a political miracle that just about sums it up for us between next year and probably sometime after 2020.
I am already a grandfather. I cannot conceive of the possibility of the Labor Party ever governing federally in its own right again in my lifetime. Unless or until the ALP leaves its sense of disappointment and its overweening sense of entitlement behind and faces the reality that it must find ways to forge alliances with the Greens there will be no chance of a left-oriented, progressive Federal government in Australia, even in the medium term. Labor’s years in the political wilderness, following the split with the DLP, pale into insignificance compared to what it is now faced with. I can see no indication that the ‘faceless’ meat-heads pulling Labor’s strings have noticed this yet.
Now if I were a real leftie cyber pundit, this would be the point at which I explained how, despite all of the evidence, the scenario I have outlined will not come to pass and that there is still reason for hope. Unfortunately, I’m not, and, barring heavenly intervention, there almost certainly isn’t. No secret path to salvation. No way of avoiding the rise of the rabid right. A strong majority for the Coalition at the next Federal election will be a black outcome for Australia. The removal of the buffer of the Greens’ balance of power in the Senate and a Coalition majority in both ‘Houses’, would be an unmitigated disaster. As I said before, hold on tight it’s going to be a rough ride.
(You can read more by Doug Evans at the Earthsign blog. Do you agree with Doug’s analysis, or do you have an alternative perspective you think other IA readers should see. If so, send your vision for Australia’s political future to editor@independentaustralia.net.)

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But three of the links in this article are to Crikey articles and Crikey is temporarily blocked as it has been hacked. According to Crikey’s Facebook page they are working to recify the situation but they recommend avoiding the site until they’ve got it fixed. Other links are OK.
This is truly frightening…when one sees what the LNP are doing in Qld…removing climate change from education and attacking scientists is 15th century extreme right wing religious dogma…they will be burning scientists at the stake next…
I just hope that people wake up to what they will truly get with Abbott before it is too late…Labor as it is now is still a hundred times better than Abbott at any time…if he gets in Australia is truly doomed…
I reckon your examples from Queensland are pretty good indicators Dee. The deliberate provocative environmental vandalism of the Baillieu government in Victoria and the O’Farrell government in NSW are other indicators of what we can expect UNLESS our fellow Aussies out in the ‘burbs and regions wake up to what is really going on. I don’t see any real likelihood of this because the people who will make the difference ‘inform’ themselves with commercial radio and TV and the Murdoch Press. Still as my granny used to say ‘fore-warned is fore-armed’. Spread the word Dee the barbarians are at the gate.
Crikey site is back up. All links seem to be working OK
The attack on the Greens by the super destructive worthless ALP right shows why they are so hated now.
I did vote ALP once upon a time, in the early 1970′s and early 1980′s when Gough and Bob offered a vision of something better than the ultra conservative I had grown up with.
Then Hawke sold us to Murdoch and the romance was over and I have not and will not ever vote ALP again.
Beazley and the TAMPA were the final straw that broke the camel’s back but if anyone wants to believe that Gillard has any sort of principled position on the the rights of refugees they can think again.
She thinks the only good reffos are those who stay home to die.
I might be stretching parallels here but there seem to be echoes of Nazism in the current political scene with Abbott’s simplistic (but effective and resonant) slogans appealing to Joe and Joanne Average). The leader knows all, can do no wrong. Sieg Heil Furher Abbott!
Very good article Doug, and unfortunately I agree with you about the state that Abbott and the MSM have brought us down to, and the horrifying prospect of an Abbott government. My only hope is that Tony Abbott will crash and burn, and be turfed out by his own party. Failing that the electorate will see through him eventually but it will be a long slog for the Labor party to rebuild itself after the coming slaughter.
I’m a granny(well,Nanna actually) Doug, and like you I truly fear for the future of my kids under the destuctive regime that will be implemented by an abbott government.
I despair at the ongoing stupidity of the electorate, who take his every word as fact and who are soo happy to rampage and rant against the current government without a clue as to what has been achieved.
Many here would have read Ned Kellys letter from Jerilderie and would now be wondering why the population of this country have descended into a mire of self interet and stupidity, given all the stranger that the current generations had the priveledge of education and comfort that the Kelly family never possessed.But they are far less lucid and far more hideous and grasping than the Kellys ever were.
And it would appear from the contribution by Marilyn S that she can hardly wait for a change of Government so that she can really whinge when abbott starts towing back the boats and countless die as a result.
Dee, the LNP have not removed climate change from education in QLD. The LNP conference voted to remove it; the Government does not have to act on it.
Seiran, in QLD the LNP conference is the government, due to the majority that they have, and this is the thin end of the wedge, if you want to se what an Abbott led gov would look like, check out the NSW libs, well over 100 broken promises and counting, VIC not far behind and King campbell will soon catch up.
And if you think that the government is dishonest, what do you base that assumption on, as the only ones avoiding scrutiny on policy are Abbott and co, instead relying on misleading slogans, misinformation and downright lies.
All the experts say that their climate change policy will not work and will cost more taxpayer money than the carbon price which BTW Howard wanted as well as Abbott until Gillard introduced one.
They continue to pursue the lie that this government is ineffective and dysfunctional even though they have passed around three hundred pieces of legislation, with only the asylum seeker legislation outstanding which all the experts have said is the best policy option for stopping the boats to save lives and which advice Abbott refuses to accept, for pure political advantage.
And to say that you are prepared to move a little to the right under Abbott is a gross understatement, as he is further to the right than any previous lib leader this country has seen, and his lies and deceit make Gillard look like a Sunday school teacher.
Bundys mum I would not vote for the liberals anymore than I would vote for the ALP – if they were the only two choices I would give a donkey vote.
I wrote the article because I’m tired of all the ‘left-ish’ online opinion suggesting, in the face of the available evidence, that the tide of public opinion is turning against the Abbott led Opposition and that Abbott himself will have no significant impact on Australian politics. To me this smacks of self-delusion and this increases the likelihood of Abbott’s rise to power.
I didn’t write the article to spread fear and despondency. When we recognize a threat we have a clear choice. Resist or become complicit in whatever eventuates. Resistance is not easy and everyone has to find their own way. But the first step is always the decision not to simply be swept along on the tide of history. No-one has put it better than Bob Marley put it in his song ‘Get up Stand up’
Get up, stand up! (in the morning! git it up! )
Stand up for your rights! (stand up for our rights! )
Get up, stand up!
Don’t give up the fight! (don’t give it up, don’t give it up! )
Get up, stand up! (get up, stand up! )
Stand up for your rights! (get up, stand up! )
Get up, stand up! (… )
Don’t give up the fight! (get up, stand up! )
Get up, stand up! (… )
Stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up!
Don’t give up the fight!
Are you genuinely as politically naive and idealistic as your rants espouse MarylinS?
Here is how the whole situation appeared to me. Sam Dastyari, a NSW(read NOT Federal) Labour man, makes some noise about the Greens. You would think the Federal Greens members might shrug this off, have a laugh, and try to minimise any ruffled feathers. But no, not the forever childish Greens. You have Milne and Hanson-Young angrily call a press conference to denounce not just Sam Dastyari, but the entire Labour movement. Well played…surely they knew the discontent frothing at the back of a number of Labour MPs minds about Wilkie(the only MP) and the Greens Senators getting more Prime Ministerial access and influence, than Labour MPs and Senators. It is about time that the Feds put the Greens back in their box. Since Bob Brown left, I haven’t found myself siding with the Greens once. You people have no-one comparable to him. I had high hopes for the Greens with their first federal MP and major senate clout, but Bandt has conducted himself more like a selfish child having a tantrum(even when knowing they are not going to get their way) than a Statesman, and the rest have often been a source of embarrassment, rather than inspiration. The thing most strikingly ‘green’ about the Greens is their level(or lack) of political finesse.
You want to play an idealists game, go ahead, if you are so blind that you cannot see what you are enabling, you will deserve every ounce of agony that Abbot(and his non-liberal Liberals) brings to your agenda. You think Labour has some animosity towards the Greens at the moment? How do you think LNP politicians and voters see you? Unfortunately, the rest of us are going to get dragged along for the ride.
Don’t think your majority in the Senate will save you from the worst of Libs in the HOR. Tony Abbott has managed to convince a record number of Australians that we should be having an early election. If he gets in, and there is more of this going nowhere negotiations, he will simply call a double dissolution election, (and a mass of the public will be screaming for it like they are now) and wipe you out of significance.
But whatever, keep on keeping on. Fuck our country eh? As long as you can rest ‘pure’ at night and get back up on your high horse each day.
edit: not ‘majority’ in the Senate, should say ‘numbers’ in the Senate.
You get one apology though Marylin, I just realised I was mashing the independent Wilkie and Bandt together as a single entity, my mistake, Wilkie is the most childish member of the HOR.
Abbott has described himself as “a junkyard dog savaging the other side. We cannot expect him to contribute anything other than darkness and negativity. Being positive or constructive are beyond him, intellectually and philosophically.
http://www.themonthly.com.au/monthly-essays-louis-nowra-whirling-dervish-tony-abbott-2250
His eyes focused on taking the country and people backwards, Abbott is a misfit in the modern era. There is no Future under Abbott, only a return to the worst of the past. The worst leader of the worst Opposition in history.
It is my belief that the majority of those who have faith in Abbott would be offended if one accused them of having intelligence below average. But Abbott’s asinine one-liners, full of flawed information, are aimed at them and are successfully manipulating them because they don’t know what they don’t know. They are being conditioned by being persuaded to believe distortions of information and their low intelligence prevents them from reasoning since their outlook is ruled by their emotions and prejudices. Abbott knows too well that he does not have to be a genius when he preaches to dolts and he also knows you can’t legislate intelligence and common sense into people.
An IQ Bell Curve of the general population reveals we have about 30% with an IQ of 80-90. It’s not their fault. It’s genetics and to be ignorant of one’s stupidity is the malady of the ignorant. Abbott is well aware of this significant group and is also aware that the majority of this group lacks common sense.
Everyone has a right to be stupid but if at the next election Tony Abbott becomes our next prime minister then it will be proof that the stupid have abused the privilege of being stupid.
Then there are those who are above average intelligence and who support Abbott and his loopy attitude. Well, we cannot blame a lack of intelligence so we have to judge them on their actions and for them to believe the power-hungry Abbott, who is using asylum people to sow the poison of racism to divide the nation a la Hanson are, then they are in my opinion miserable human beings.
If you talk to many young people today they really don’t have a clue what Work Choices means.
They have no idea that any benefit they enjoy was bitterly fought for by people like my union organising grandfather in a car manufacturing plant.
They don’t know that every tiny advance was accompanied by the scream of doom and gloom and that business would collapse if the workers got an extra five minute tea break.
Despite more access to media they know less about their own recent history but they know all about Lady GaGa to the nth degree.
Perhaps they deserve a dose of Abbott but his damage could be permanent as we still have Howard’s in place. NSW & QLD will pay a severe price for handing the Coalition such idiotic seat majorities.
At nearly 60 and having been an anti-war campaigner, human rights campaigner and environmental campaigner since child hood I do laugh rather loudly when people call me naive about anything.
I find the people who believe there is some rational difference between the lib/labs to be rather delusional.
I simply will not vote for either major party and a good percentage of the population feel just the same as I do.
A parliament that has a debate about how to get around Australian and international humanitarian law to allow them to brutalise just a few thousand people is really not much of a parliament now is it?
The ALP right should look at the damage they have done and be very, very quiet so we might have some time to forgive them.
Stop whining. This problem is the fault of the left. Full stop. The greens are marginal at best. They are simply the left version of One Nation. The ALP willingly got into bed with them solely for grabbing power. That they now criticise the greens as being extremist might be correct but demonstrates how dishonest and pathetic the ALP has become. They clearly have no insight or sense of irony. They have learnt nothing in opposition and failed miserably in government. They have nobody to blame and they have brought Abbott on this country. They will rise again but it will take an enormous effort from another generation.
And when Marilyn Shepherd keeps speaking for the greens you know they have no future.
Keep blaming everyone else because it couldn’t possibly be the fault of the left.
@Oscar Jones. Yes our forefathers fought long and hard for the workers rights ie, sick leave, maternity leave, vacation leave, hourly rates etc. rights that today many now take for granted.
However, as my ol’ Gran-pappy used to say, when the people forget this and surrender our basic rights to the Fat Cats, those over indulged elite class, those who believe they and they alone are entitled to ALL the riches of earth’s bounty, like pigs at the troughs; then the masses will again take to the streets, the Guillotines will roll and it will again be‘ Off with their Heads’ for this is the only language Abbot and the organ grinders will ever understand.
So, not naive, just one-eyed. Not exactly better.
No difference between Labour and Liberal you say? Of course not on most issues(bi-partisan support is actually a good thing sometimes you know?), but there most definitely are differences on others. Just at this point in time, there is no particular difference to you on your pet issues.
The right factions gaining more power reflect the electorate. It has been a gradual and steady process. You want immediate change(and I am with you there) but despite what you say, the majority are not ready to lurch to the left. Without any major social catalyst, the only option is an incremental process. You just push people away with your hyperbolic sprays, especially when you get liberal with facts. You need to change peoples opinions, not preach to the converted if you want to increase the numbers on your side.
The humanitarian issue with refugees is not the social catalyst you wish it to be. And I doubt very much it will be at the next election. Most people realise that a line has to be drawn somewhere, and while they may find the positions of the major parties harsh, or even brutal, they are not going to side with someone who has no ‘limit’ so to speak.
As humans, we have always been good at rationalising away vast amounts of others suffering(there is no other way to survive a brutal world), so you face an uphill battle by simply pointing out the horrors. If you truly wish to be effective, you need to convince people you have a solution that is practical, not just warm and fuzzy.
I doubt you will ever convince me though. I want people to seriously address the problem of world overpopulation, or what you see now is just a sideshow. Exponential human population growth is the biggest threat to everyone and everything. Not exactly the most ‘humane’ position, but I don’t automatically put people above other animals or the rest of the natural world. We are at plague proportions, and our consumption per head is ever increasing, especially as developing nations modernise their populations. It is the elephant in the room in regards to sustainability in all fields(and that includes maintaining a high standard of human rights), yet nobody says a word.
We are screwed.
Doug, among the reasons I prayed for a Labor/Greens victory at the last election was the fear that with Abbott in power we’d have to suffer statues of Howard on every street corner.
At that stage I couldn’t imagine a more divisive, manipulative PM than Howard. I’ve now realised Abbott will be far worse. Howard, although nasty and manipulative, at least espoused rationality and spoke in full and coherent, sentences, even if I didn’t like his underlying assumptions and logic.
But as you say we are now on a trajectory to having as our next PM, a vitriolic, 3-word-slogan-speaking, robotic-action-man, a megalomaniac, whose buttons are being pushed by Clive Palmer, Gina Rinehart and George Pell.
As the months have passed I’ve been feeling sicker and sicker in the pit of my stomach at the thought of having a man as dangerous as Abbott as PM.
I’ve voted Labor-House of Reps, Greens-Senate for years. Both parties contribute worthwhile ideas and principles to the political debate, and both work towards the achievement of important environmental and social justice outcomes. I think it’s time we got over the divisions and work towards a genuine centre-left coalition. Bickering and in-fighting between Labor and Greens only plays into Abbott’s hands. If we stand and fight together there’s a chance we could still prevail.
Matt- as for the most infantile member- based on their performances in and out of the House of Reps, even on Wilkie’s worst day, I’d still give the dummy prize to the Wining Pyne.
True, Pyne is an excellent example, there are so many to choose from, I may have been somewhat rash.
What has world population got to do with the parliament trying to break the law over the rights of a few thousand refugee?
I agree with the Pyne being the biggest dummy in Parliament, he was my MP for 15 years and I have known his excellent left leaning hippie brother since 1978.
In 2002 there was a meeting of the refugee association in Adelaide, he was a guest speaker who was singing the praises of Howard pushing away refugees and keeping families apart on illegal temporary protection visas while the refugees in the room were crying in despair.
I staged a walk out with almost the entire audience (including Lowitja O’Donohue who took in dozens of Afghan boys) and left him flapping his ignorant gums.
Another time at his old school in Adelaide he told Afghan children they should have stayed in Pakistan even if they faced being shot.
He’s a charmer alright.
Population has everything to do with it. Overpopulation leads to mass poverty, starvation, land destruction, and conflict. Guess what causes refugees? Everywhere around the world is filling up fast, and can’t handle the load. Populations go up, space and resources go down. Following this continuous pattern, when will it reach critical mass? What happens when Australia reaches its peak input? And the rest of the world? Without addressing this issue, there will come a time when the problem becomes so overwhelming, there is nothing you can do. By that stage though I’d suspect asylum seekers will be one of your least concerns.
Oh god, what do you want to do Matt, have a culling of human beings?
No, but that is one of the realities that already does occur as a result of overpopulation, and we deal with the refugees of such ‘cullings’.
The hyperbolic response you have displayed though is typical of what one can expect when raising the topic.
To Oscar, my great-grandfather was the Shearers’ Union Secretary at the time of the Great Shearers’ Strike. He went to jail for the cause. He was held in such high esteem apparently, that the business people of the town raised the money for his bail. Couldn’t see that happening today! He played an active role in the formation of the Australian Labor Party. He would roll over in his grave if he saw what was happening today, especially in Queensland.
Campbell Newman is not only running (?ruining) Queensland, but he’s doing some federal politicking on the side, bolstering Tony Abbott’s chances. The former Labor voters (Qld) only punished themselves in the Qld elections, let’s hope they come back to their senses before the next federal election.
WEll I was howled down as a vile and evil racist when I suggested in 1975 that contraception should be available to everyone and the catholic church should butt out.
But there is no use blaming people for being born.
Doug this meshes closely to my own thoughts.Since WW2 Influential Capital through their proxy the US Govt have sought to, and succeeded in stabilizing and ensuring their access to Global Energy and Global Markets, not necessarily a bad thing except their methods of achieving this have had brutal consequences for many people globally. It seems to me that the Union Movement in Aussie was infiltrated/indoctrinated by the well behaved US Unions during the late 70′s during training visits at that time(not sure of the mechanism but it seems to fit the picture).So the ALP Right has a long history but learnt how to play the game via the US training and has been very successful at pulling the Party to the Right so to speak.In understanding how MSM has been successful in convincing people of the merits of Abbot et al,the research into the “Two Minds”(Paul Slovic)put simply as “Gut and Head” is interesting reading. @Mat IQ is no guarantee of ethical thinking, as a good proportion of the Intellectual Elite in societies work to, and prosper under tyrannical type regimes as they most often are clever enough to play the game to their advantage.
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I’ve got no idea about the issues you raise in the first part of your comment but your mention of the two minds twitched my antennae. I am chiefly concerned with climate change communication and there are two persistent phenomena in relation to the climate crisis that suggest that there is both an emotional and and intellectual component to any human beliefs and resultant action.
These are the denier phenomenon and the gap between intellectual acknowledgement and consequent action by the vast majority of people. The derogatory term ‘truthiness’ might be seen to refer to the emotional component.
For a proposition to be truly accepted it must first feel right, feel true. The frames of reference through which we make these emotional assessments are a sort of sum total of our life experience.
Prior disappointment with the holders of power whether political or in the form of knowledge might incline us not to accept the pronouncements of others belonging to this class, climate scientists for example, especially if accepting their pronouncements promises some form of discomfort.
Thus climate deniers cannot be convinced by logical argument and most of the rest of us tremble on the brink of action until dramatic and incontrovertible evidence emerges that not to act will certainly result in bad things happening – to us.
Think back to the last el Niño drought and how much more seriously climate change was viewed then and the radical shift in US opinion with the range of heat related extreme weather events they are currently experiencing.
My strongest hope for our immediate future is that Abbott having been elected will be so wrong footed by the return of the el Niño drought, predicted late 2012 or 2013, and the consequent tsunami of public sentiment that with the archbishop and the mining magnate in his ear he will be totally unable to respond and will be chucked out. Tenuous hope I know but we’ve got to have something to hold on to.
Doug
My current level of understanding Psychology as a Science is basic to poor, I hope to rectify this with further reading.What has alerted me to the Gut/Head process is a book by Dan Gardner called “RISK The Science and Politics of Fear”.As for the US thing, well, “Chomsky” is a good starting point, but it takes a while to put the threads together which is not a bad thing as you need to look left and right, to make a rational decision as to how it has panned out since the 1940′s.
Thankyou Doug, I feel the same about the current political environment. Very frightened. The best I think we can hope for is a somewhat tight gain by Abbott. If we have a tight enough contest, the conservatives may hesitate prior to triggering a double dissolution election. Second, those repugnant USA republicans may find the lies could keep them from office a bit longer which in turn may take away some of the Abbott legitimacy. Finally, as you have pointed out above, the reinstatment of a very hot and firey summer could help politically to prove playing with the health of the biosphere is something we definately should not do.
Doug
I live in a rural area and just today was having a yak with a neighbour, he does agree with global warming but doubts human causation. He has decided to vote abbott HR and katter senate(sob).When I reminded him of the middle class welfare and in particular the absurd paid parental policy he agreed that it was idiotic and another middle class welfare promise ala howard.
Point I’m trying to make is that even with the return of ElNino, which with every successive model appears to be a sure thing, these idiots will not abandon their natural base and when questioned as to the wrong doings of the Labor Govt. They descend into the bullshit they hear from the shock-jocks.
I despair.
“During the last million years, as Earths’ climate was oscillating between glacial and interglacial states, atmospheric CO₂ naturally varied between 180 and 280 ppm, however, its content in the Doug ……atmosphere is now reaching values unprecedented in human times. Since the 19th century, human activities have released more CO₂ into the atmosphere, volumes that in May 2012 reached the 400 ppm milestone.” (IA)
Now I am prepared to agree with anthropogenic climate change deniers that human activities have not contributed to the increased levels of CO₂, provided that they can explain one thing that has me completely baffled; that is:
What natural phenomena occurred from the time of the Industrial Revolution up until May 2012 to cause the level of CO₂ to rise from 280 ppm to 400 ppm (and rising).
I work in an industry that is one of Australia largest employers & as a Labor man I despair over the non-involvement of younger workers to the Union cause, they assume that there is nothing in it for them as pay rises & working conditions magically appear, courtesy of the generosity of their employer. This extends into the political realm as well, as their ideas are shaped by their daily mind numbing by shallow TV shows such as Sunrise, Today Tonight & ACA. This is not helped by shock jocks such as John Laws who on 2HD in Newcastle, runs a promo for his show that says the the current ALP Government, under Julia Gillard, has done nothing for the Australian Electorate except spend the surplus of OUR taxes that was wisely put away by Howard … apparently over 300 pieces of legislation while dealing working in a minority government doesn’t amount to anything in the world of right wing shock jocks.
We now have a generation of voters that truly believe that government is there to pander to their every whim & want … I call them the McDonalds Generation, a generation of voters who believe that every time they yell & scream, they’ll get a free toy!
Abbott will get into power on the apathy of the McDonalds Generation.
owena
Thanks for the heads up on that book of Dan Gardner. I’ll have a look at it.
Russell
Take heart. Find your own best way to push back and I think climate change is the lever. Abbott (assuming he wins) will be completely blindsided by what I hope will be a gigantic shift in public opinion once the el Niño kicks in again. SO – letters to editors, picket your politician’s office, start a local action group with your neighbours, join an existing community group, ring in on talk back radio, whatever -JUST DO IT! You’ll feel better and remember to just let it happen without resisting is to become complicit.
Bundysmum
It would make you weep wouldn’t it? Just shows how much there is to be done.
csaw59
Absolutely agree. Combination of Howard and a self-absorbed, politically-apathetic electorate who have had it so good for so long that they completely take for granted their privileged lifestyle. This of course is based on gains won for them by the Unions they can’t be bothered joining.
Don’t know about you but I can’t see the Union movement clawing back from here. I suspect we are on the slippery slope to the ruinous situation that exists in the USA and just quietly I don’t think the sort of scandalous corruption that attaches to the HSU currently or the Painters and Dockers and the BLF previously has helped one little bit.
For anyone interested a very sensible piece by Mungo McCallum on the Drum yesterday dealing with Labor right’s savaging of the Greens. If they don’t wake up Abbott won’t even need his double dissolution to trash our efforts to save our environmental future. http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4132740.html?WT.svl=theDrum
Rhonda : you must be so proud of your Grandfather.
I think of all the things my Grandfather used to say about business / workers etc and it all seemed so sensible, so down to earth and such common sense. And he seemed to be able talk kindly about the many bosses who were very reasonable and basically wanted the same thing : a country where everyone got a fair go.
I believe today he would be seen as raging left-wing pinko commie bleeding heart subversive. In his day, he was seen as quite normal.
My grandfather spent 6 years in WW11 and he did not do it so we could jail children for daring to escape war.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-18/asylum-seekers-intercepted-with-military-escort/4138902
And this is why the ALP should thank the Greens for saving their hideous hides in the senate.
We pay for the Indonesians to jail refugees for us, we pay the army and TNI to hunt them down like dogs and steal everything they can from them, torture and abuse them.
now we have the army helping some women and kids escape and they are arrested again by another group of Indonesians and almost no-one in Australia bothers to report that we pay for this crap.