If a wrong thing is said, it can be argued, writes Bob Ellis, it does not need or deserve the cutting out of tongues.
ASSANGE suing Gillard, which of course he could, stirs up in the thoughtful mind a few scenarios. Can Haneef sue Andrews? Can any Tampa refugee now living here, or in New Zealand, sue Howard? Can anyone who did not throw children overboard that week sue Reith? Can, indeed, anyone sneered at by Alan Jones sue 2GB?
I suspect they can. I myself was sued once, or my publisher was, by Tony Abbott for having said a woman influenced his politics. And this was unthinkable then, and he got forty thousand for it, the price then of a house in Woy Woy, and Margie got thirty thousand, the price of a house in Caboolture.
That was in another millennium, of course, and Justice Higgins is an honourable man. And what was a hateful utterance in one decade isn’t now. In the 50s, you could be called a Communist and ruined. Or a homosexual. In the 30s, a promiscuous widow, or the teenage mother of an adopted child. Now you can be seriously damaged if you refer, in a private message, to a woman’s genitalia. Two billion males now living have done this, including Barry Humphries (‘Gina’s hole’, ‘the bearded clam’), one on Q&A, and it’s a worry.
What Assange and Jones and Ashby now raise as a question is what privacy is, and if the concept means much any more. Do Chatham House rules, or Top Secret, or Private and Confidential mean, in the internet era ― nothing at all? Looks like it. Does photographing the Duchess of Cambridge’s breasts, and hacking Milly Dowler’s phone come under freedom of speech, or some kind of secular blasphemy? Is it wrong now to portray Mohammed on film, as it was once with Jesus? Or is it fair enough, or even ‘whistleblowing’ to do so, even if some people (directors, actors, cinema ushers, riot policemen) die of it, as Rushdie’s translators once did?
Where, then, in law, does privacy lie? And where does our freedom to speak, however cantankerously of this or that high official and their family?
I found it was wrong to suggest a woman had two brilliant lovers in a lifetime, one her husband, and influenced their politics. Assange is finding it wrong to show film of a war crime and so enrage the Pentagon he may do fifty years naked in solitary for it. Slipper is finding it wrong to vividly describe, like many novelists have (Roth, Nabokov, Amis, Bellow), a vagina, and Jones is finding it ruinous to say a man was unsettled by the deeds of his daughter.
This is difficult territory, but it always comes down, I think, to three things: Kennedy books, Mein Kampf, and Jon Stewart. Did Robert Dallek have the right to reveal John Kennedy knowingly passed on non-specific urethritis to Audrey Hepburn, Marilyn Monroe and Grace Kelly? Is this any of his business? Or ours? And does a suburban librarian have the right to lend Mein Kampf to a young man with earrings, tatts and spiky hair? And does Jon Stewart have the right to portray, by eloquent mimicry, George Bush as a moron? Or Bill Leak the right to draw a public figure naked?
It is difficult, as I say, because words do harm, it is part of their function. But once you start stoning to death young men who say ‘Yaweh’, or old men who write, in a private text, ‘unshelled mussel’, or mid-aged men who reveal evil done by great powers, or snoopy historians who find Abe Lincoln had syphilis and his wife died mad of it, you are in the same territory, and the same police state cast of mind, as any South American dictatorship, or any ancient theocracy, or any prurient Scientologist, and you are probably not well in your mind.
If a wrong thing is said, it can be argued. It can be debated. It does not need, and it does not deserve, the cutting out of tongues.

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I think the fact Bob has written a new piece for IA just after a piece was published knocking him demonstrates the maturity and good ethics of both Ellis and this website which I have just discovered.
Watching the Leveson Inquiry I noted one thing he said that was little reported and I hope he advises should be implemented. Although I doubt it will and probably never here.
There needs to be a libel tribunal that can be accessed by all citizens.
And here is one more big difference between Bob Ellis and Alan Jones.
Ellis can take a bit of criticism and keep on contributing.
Jones whinges at what he richly deserves, and seems like the type who would have his defamation lawyers’ numbers on speed dial.
Ellis cops a fair bit of abuse and criticism, some of it deserved.
Jones is a bully with a persecution complex, which is about as ugly a bloke can get.
I have just read that Ashby is now claiming to have been terribly distressed by Slipper in November last year and January this year, before he took the high paying job as a spy for the liberal party.
How can he possibly carry on with this deranged sort of case and why do the media find it so titillating when it is a story about not much.
It’s like like this boy is a nice young thing – “Yeah, go for it you fucking psychopath. Next time I see you riding on your fucking bike I’ll hit you, you idiot, all over the sloppy road, you dumb prick. Fuck it, if I was your mother, I would have drowned you at birth.”
He is a foul mouthed harasser and tout for boys for men.
My problem with Jones and this particular instance is that the dead have no recourse. They can’t sue so we will never know the truth or otherwise of that particular statement. That is why I find his actions in this case so downright odious that they truly are beyond the Pale. Added to that the effect such attacks on the deceased have on their living descendants then you even have to wonder about the wisdom of the revelations about Jimmy Savile even though he sounds a right type in his day. All in all, Jones’ comments were totally low rent and boy, am I glad he is copping the bollocking he so richly deserves.
Alan Jones’ comments were cruel & offensive, but I imagine that given the community reaction, he would be deeply regretting what he said. The right to freedom of speech however, is so important to our democracy, that we sometimes just have to put up with the spite & cruelty of some. Look at the cultures that deny freedom of speech; they inevitably get carried away with their own power to control others, & you end up with such ridiculous & dangerous situations whereby someone just drawing a cartoon gets murdered, & whole countries & cultures go on violent rampages, over a silly clip on YouTube. We can’t risk allowing such ignorant intolerance to fester here, & the only way to prevent it, is freedom of speech, whereby views are debated, rather than forced down people’s throats by threats of prosecution or violence. What we need is to have freedom of speech embedded in our constitution. If that means that some people get offended, then there are plenty of avenues for redress; particularly with community reaction. But denying freedom of speech, undermines democracy & would be a dangerous direction for our future.
I’v never listened to Alan Jones. I’ve noticed Newman here in Queensland gives him air. Some want the thing to spread.
good point bob. i like to see some consequences for jones’ remarks which were unnecessarily rude (hitting him in his hip pocket works), but don’t think i want him taken off the air. blokes like this really show the australian public how the conservative right in the country think, and hopefully turn people off it, so let him go on.
there has to be a line though, surely. inciting violence like he did to cronulla is a criminal offence, still not sure why the cops haven’t charged him. from there it’s up to his employers whether he stays on the radio, but serial offences should lead to licenses being revoked.
podargus, Freedom of Speech is a double-edged sword, or maybe even a many-pointed morningstar. Consider this:
(I will be referring to what are usualy called “rights” as “privileges” since rights cannot be taken away. Language is very important in these matters)
Jones excersised his privilege of freedom of speech. I also have every priviledge to voice my disgust at his comments, and you are within the boundaries of your privliges to disagree. However, Joe Blogs is ALSO within his privileges to demand Jones be silenced. It’s his opinion, and if we say “You can’t say that!”, are we not limiting his freedom of speech?
The question is where to draw the line. We don’t want, for instance, extremist islamic clerics preaching hatred of the western world to young people in downtown Melbourne, because they might incite violence. Words can cause harm. Should you debate with them in a public forum, overturning their zeal and swaying the crowd, or should you gag them? A question for policy makers… And therefore, all of us.
Listen to the recording of Jones at that Young Liberals public event.
His ridiculous and wrong remarks about Ms Gillard’s father draws some response from the crowd that is hard to gauge from the recording. There is certainly some shock at such remarks.
Then Jones goes on to say something like “No no no – This is where we’re weak” and then exhorts the Young Libs to attack harder, to put away common decency.
This is our glimpse into what Jones truly thinks about how the political game should be played.
His apologies after the recording was widely heard mean nothing. Jones’ apologies mean nothing to him. He apologised long ago after telling his listeners that Gillard should be drowned in a chaff bag, but then kept up the chaff bag routine in the months following.
The notion that Jones’ apology obliges Gillard to respond is obnoxious.
Gillard is entitled to present the cold shoulder to Jones. She is also entitled to present a spirited and personal attack on Abbott’s clear record of sexist behaviour in his public, parliamentary roles, and I am glad that she did so today.
Abbott’s use of the phrase “died of shame” today was shameful to himself and his party. He deserves all the criticism he is getting.
PS IA, Your clock needs to be changed for daylight saving time. That is, the clock that puts a time stamp on comments.
Incorrect Godotcab. IA is and always has been published in Queensland, which does not have daylight saving.
Alright. I didn’t know that. Thanks.
‘Two billion males now living have done this’ – spot on, Bob! I’m wondering how many pontificating people would be able to stand tall if their private communications were made public.