Vince O’Grady writes about his various skirmishes with the ABC concerning the veracity of their reporting, before asking readers to detail their own experiences.
I used to be a fairly quiet chap, always having an opinion but generally not sharing it.
This stance changed after the tenth year of the Howard Government ― and here is the reason why.
In the budget speech of 10 May 2005, Peter Costello said the following about Disability Support Pensioners:
But from 1 July 2006, a person capable of part-time work will no longer be entitled to a Disability Pension if they are capable of working more than 15 hours a week at award wages. The object of these changes is to protect the genuinely disabled, but to encourage those capable of part-time work to look for it.
The largest category of disability at present is musculo-skeletal injury — principally bad backs. A person in this category may be unable to hold down a full-time manual job but they may be capable of part-time work, especially non-manual work. Of course if they are unable to find it, they will continue to receive income support through enhanced Newstart. But they will have an obligation to look for work.
On the following Saturday 14 May 2005, on the ABC radio broadcast as story on their AM programme called ‘AM – Welfare to work doesn’t go far enough: surgeon‘.
The proposition put by the ABC presenter Toni Hassan was:
700,000 Australians are on the disability support pension – double the number at the start of the last decade.
The largest group are pensioners with muscular skeletal injuries, or as the Treasurer says, “bad backs”.
Welfare advocates say they are not deliberately avoiding work, but one senior neurosurgeon, who wants to speak anonymously, is not so sure.
Let’s call him “Neurosurgeon X”.
Patients complaining of back or lower limb problems are referred to “X” for diagnosis and pain management.
On examination, he finds that one in every 10 do not have a genuine or objective disability.
“Neurosurgeon X” then gives a bland outline of all the patients who come to see him for medical advice and back pain, where a diagnosis cannot be established and where he says there is evidence of patients enhancing their symptoms.
Hassan then tells listeners that these people are initially supported by Workcover and then go onto be Disability Support Pensioners
“…even though there’s no real or organic problem to explain their complaint”.
So, without getting a second opinion, he has effectively asserted that most people on disability pensions are bludgers.
Then, pushing the bounds of credulity to the limit, this anonymous neurosurgeon goes on to say that he has asked many of these people what they are on a disability pension for and “they can’t remember”.
His next statement, when his anger was erupting and bubbling over, is most interesting. He said:
“I don’t think I’ve ever been asked by Centrelink what my opinion is about these patients ― they’re not being sent to me by Centrelink, they’re being sent to me by the GP.”
I just happen to be a Disability Support Pensioner. I am indeed one of the people who has a bad back ― as well as bad knees, bad hands, bad neck, bad feet and a bad pelvis. These are musculo-skeletal and connective tissue issues and one in three DSP’s in Australia fall into this category. I have arthritis; the name for my condition is Ankylosing Spondylitis. I have had this condition since 1981 ― 31 years ago. I worked for many years with the condition and, when it degenerated into a huge problem, I applied for and went on to the DSP.
I wrote and made a complaint to the ABC on the grounds of bias ― that only one side of a story was being told; how could we believe one anonymous person when a cohort of people numbering 230,000 people would be judged by this interview and no-one from the other side of the equation was used.
My complaint went to the independent review panel. I was sent a knock back saying that the issues I canvassed were covered in other ABC content and that there was not enough room to cover the other side of the story there.
Having read “Neurosurgeon X’s” input, let me tell you of my experience.
When I first got arthritis, the pain in my feet was so bad I could hardly walk. I went to a specialist who diagnosed me with psoriatic arthritis and started treating me with a drug called Methrotraxate. The specialist I went to was not a neurosurgeon ― he was a rheumatologist. Rheumatologists treat people with arthritis (musculo-skeletal complaints).
When I applied for the DSP, I had to fill out the forms and of course there were GP’s reports and specialist reports (my rheumatologist), so I find the comment above by the specialist that he has never been asked by Centrelink about these people more than a bit strange.
I also find it decidedly strange that the people on the DSP’s had forgotten the reason they were on a DSP. The reason I find this hard to believe is that DSP’s are bloody hard to get. They are now even harder following Peter Costello’s and John Howard’s demonising of them in 2005. No-one would ever forget the reasons they got on a disability pension.
That was my first effort at righting a wrong that the ABC had done against people like me ― the bludger.
For those of you who are genuinely interested in the people who are on disability pensions and want to learn more you can read the reports here.
It is a great pity that the ABC reporters and editorial people are so lazy and indolent that they just followed the Liberal Party line of Peter Costello and did a disgustingly one-sided story, backed up by a non-existent specialist doctor.
[For those interested in the ABC's suspect use of "anonymous" sources, see this recent story by Andrew Kos.]
They then denied their bias. They denied it, even though I proved to them that what they said could not have been true, with regards to the claims about people:
- never having been asked by Centrelink;
- forgetting the reason they were on a DSP;
- with bad backs or musculo-skeletal injuries going to see a neurosurgeon (when really they see a rheumatologist); and
- having no idea, nor the doctor, about the process of getting a DSP.
Since then, I have watched the ABC carefully, noting its frequently loose use of the truth.
The second incident I will mention (leaving out many in-between) was the 30 April 2012 interview between Chris Uhlmann and Craig Emerson, after which I wrote the following to the ABC:
I would like to comment on the behaviour of Chris Uhlmann whilst interviewing Dr Craig Emerson last evening.
I thought him extremely rude, with his tone, his questions and his haranguing manner.
I think that he should be sacked for showing what a poor journalist he is. Not only because of his bad manners, but also for his slant of his questioning. His questions showed an unprofessional approach to the subjects raised by Heather Ewatt. The minister answered the question and he asked it again.
Whilst Dr Emerson was answering the question he interrupted with “The issue is trust, the issue is trust!” No question, just an interruption.
The response I received back was laced with condescension, and included the following statement:
The adversarial or ‘devil’s advocate’ style of interviewing, employed at times by Chris Uhlmann, can generate a strong and mixed reaction from the public. Part of the technique of the ‘devil’s advocate’ approach is to take major points of criticism from various sources and put them to the interviewee. This can sometimes give the audience the impression that these are the personal views of the interviewer. This is not the case.
When he is doing a one-on-one interview he has a duty to conduct a testing interview that does not allow the interviewee to use the occasion as a political platform. It is his duty to put other points of view to the interviewee and his responsibility to make reasonable efforts to ensure that the questions are answered.
I wrote back:
I would like to make the following observations on your characterisation of Chris Uhlmann’s interview style.
You said “When he is doing a one-on-one interview he has a duty to conduct a testing interview that does not allow the interviewee to use the occasion as a political platform.”
This seems to me a completely stupid comment, because politicians use every press minute as a “political platform” So, in fact, what you are saying is that ABC journalists randomly deny certain politicians (depending on the interview style they choose), their right to get across their political views.
In the interview in question, Uhlmann certainly denied Dr Emerson the right to his political views to be heard by the public, by continually interrupting him and haranguing him. That, by any decent social measure, is the definition of being rude.
Tony Jones is another person who uses this technique, but he is also selective with who he uses it with. On Q&A he continually interrupts people to correct them. The other night on Lateline he allowed Greg Hunt a complete “political platform” in a tame interview. Naturally, it was about the carbon price. Greg hunt stated that in 40 years time the “tax” would be such and such. A total misrepresentation of the facts of the price, which lasts under the legislation until 2015 when it becomes a cap and trade scheme.
Contrast the two interviews. Uhlmann “going after” Dr Emerson in a forthright and, in my opinion, rude manner and questioning anything he said “… that does not allow the interviewee to use the occasion as a political platform”; and then Tony Jones, asking questions and not interrupting Greg Hunt during his interview and in consequence “ALLOWING HIM A POLITICAL PLATFORM” which was misleading in the extreme.
These are the reasons that I believe that the ABC is now biased. And Mr Doyle you do a good job of protecting the ABC, but your arguments are weak and unsustainable.
To be right up to date, I will mention another ABC howler and misinformation.
On 3 September, ABC News 24 channel did an overview of the Gonski report. They stated in writing on the screen that Gonski had recommended a $5 billion increase in school funding. In the 41 recommendations of the report which I read, he had done no such thing. Gonski recommended a new funding system be developed by government.
I wrote to the ABC and asked them to correct the misrepresentation. I have had no response so far. I have seen no withdrawal. I wrote a piece for Independent Australia about the reality of the Gonski review, which was published on June 30; please see it here.
All that day, the ABC referred to the “long awaited “ response to the Gonski report. It was released to Government in December 2011 and publically in February 2012. That is 6 months ago. Given that it was a major review on how our school system is funded and the investment discussed in the document, I find it a little disingenuous of the ABC to say “long awaited”. How long do they think major policy decisions should take? Overnight? A few days?
I ask you, the reader, to comment after this piece, relating your concerns about the reporting of the issues of the day by the public broadcaster.
Am I a bludger for having bloody painful arthritis for the last 31 years?
Does “Neurosurgeon X” exist?
Does the ABC give us the facts and both sides of the story?
Was Chris Uhlmann rude to Dr Emerson in his attempt to not allow Emerson a “political platform”.
Please share your ABC moments and let us all see if they are the credible news service that we expect ― and the nation sorely requires.

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27 Comments
the ABC TV and Radio are both a mis leading farce and are totally bias our PM and the Govt.
I don’t think I have ever seen a good interview conducted by Chris Uhlmann. His skills seem non-existent. Leigh sales, on the other hand, knows how to interview.
In my opinion, on the issue of standards of reporting on the abc, there are very few! Its news reports are misleading and ill-researched or important segments are removed, seemingly to mislead. I have very little faith in abc.
Also, the standard of spelling and grammar is unfortunatley very low and getting lower. Shoddy journalism such as calling Frank Bainimarana a Prime Minister and Hugo Chavez a dictator the example. To comment or complain about it to be shut out or ignored. Very irritating at times. I stick with the ABC but journos seem to have circled the wagons on shoddy practices.
I have a very modest request. I would like to be provided with a “professional” NEWS service by the tax payer funded national broadcaster.I no longer watch the so called ABC TV news program.
Radio National hourly NEWS to my mind have to be purely based on relevant FACTS presented by ABC staff (newsreader, reporters, correspondents)ONLY . What we are getting at the moment is he said / she said infotainment consisting mainly of opinion, gossip, spin, misinformation and frequently poorly researched copies of MSM sound bites.
The flawed ABC charter allows this to occur. To my knowledge there isn’t a “professional” NEWS service in existence anywhere in Australia. RSVP.
“I don’t think I’ve ever been asked by Centrelink what my opinion is about these patients ― they’re not being sent to me by Centrelink, they’re being sent to me by the GP.”
If he was a doctor he would not have made the statement, because he would be bound by medical confidentiality constraints as the patient was not referred by centerlink and I am sure if you were a centerlink client sent to a doctor by them, somewhere along the line youwould have been asked to sign a waiver so that centerlink could get a medical report.
on the issue of Uhlmann and his duty to ensure that interviewee does not make a political platform out of an interview should that not work both ways so that the interviewer remains impartial and does not opinionate the interview with their own personal or political thoughts? It is glaringly obvious that the opposition are getting an easy ride from 07:30 and even Abbots interview was the exception rather than the norm.
The piece run by Ms Hassan was a disgrace and not worthy of ‘our ABC’. It reeks of cheap tabloid sensationalism.
For any doctor to comment on a patient he has not seen is unethical. He cannot possibly speak for those who he has not examined and to make the giant leap of logic that his patients indicate something is happening in others. No wonder he remained anonymous.
The DSP is famously difficult to get as I know how much trouble a relative went through after their knees were shattered. On the plus side he had little trouble with GPs who interviewed him on behalf of Centrelink. He said they were professional and courteous.
But the media is failing us miserably and that was demonstrated just yesterday and I predict a vicious piece of sensationalism will run this Sunday in the rapidly plunging Sun Herald.
A Fairfax journalist turned up to a tribunal where a professional was seeking to have his license to work re-instated.
The journalist was listed as a ‘witness’ in the case and from the brief of evidence it appeared had also supplied ‘evidence’ (in the form of their own published articles- one which is the most vicious I have read in a long time).
And then at the end of the case when the magistrate concluded the plaintiff’s case was indeed genuine but sadly, he had no [power to re-instate the desired license, the journalist then wished to interview the applicant.
So we had a journalist who was a witness, evidence supplier and working member of the media all in one go in a court case.
Surely a massive conflict of interest.
Correct “oldfart”
“It is glaringly obvious that the opposition are getting an easy ride from 07:30 and even Abbots interview was the exception rather than the norm.”
I think it is a waste of time writng to the ABC. Best to leave a comment on the facebook page of a particular program. At least it is there for the public to see.
I am in strong agreement with the issues raised in the article and in the comments. I have also contacted ABC regarding bias representation of conservatives on The Drum,, as seen on this site previously. Their response was disingenuous to say the least. I have forwarded my concerns and copies of ABC responses to Media Watch. They showed some interest with a couple of follow up emails but nothing has come of it yet. I still watch ABC because the alternatives are even worse with the exception of SBS.
I first complained to the ABC about Uhlman when he intterview Kevin Rudd prior to the 2007 election. The interview was typical uhlman, haraunging and constantly interrupting and being downrite rude.
The response was almost identical to that received by you Vince how many years later.The ABC is a disgrace and the way that they handle complaints is with contempt. And I can certaainly vouch for the difficulty in obtaining a disability pension, my former partner was diagnosed with a serious incurable disease and had to jump through hoops with Centrelink. It is far from easy.
I have lost count of the number of complaints I have made to the ABC about their negativity towards the Govt and Julia Gillard. Their unprofessional biased reporting, their slanted news items pro LNP and the kid glove treatment given to Abbott verging on adoration.
There are a few exceptions of course, but very few in the ranks of ABC Journalists and Current Affairs. TV’s News24 is appalling and a total failure, their radio counterpart dismal and regurgitates the pro LNP/Abbott line day after day, with presenters not bothering to hide their bias.
Complaining to the ABC is a complete waste of time if expecting to receive any action on the complaint. Similar trying to get the Minister to do anything about Mark Scott for whom Minister Conroy is responsible. It beggers belief the Minister is unaware of the attacks on the PM and Govt, the one sided coverage, the pussy footing around Tony Abbott (Leigh Sales excepted). Frankly how the incompetent Mr Uhlmann retains his job is something only he and his friend CEO Mark Scott can answer. he wouldn’t last 5 mins in any reputable organisation.
It is time the ABC was removed from Mr Conroy’s responsibilities and given to a Minister who has the guts to stand up to Mr Scott and demand answers and action from him.
To imagine for one second the ABC is not in step with News Ltd, the free to air channels and shock jocks in their attempt to remove this Labor Govt by whatever means, is to live in cuckoo land.
I’ve sent dozens of complaints about the right-wing bias to the ABC, and had each one – each one! – dismissed.
Tell me another organisation in the country that gets away with routine, systemic dismissal of genuine ‘customer’ concerns. I’d be surprised if there’s even one.
The ABC needs a good hard looking-into:
1) Who was responsible for the installment of bias? How exactly did this come about?
2) On what grounds are editorial appointments and promotions within the organisation made?
3) Who decided that the IPA, a partisan organisation with links to the Liberal Party, should dominate panel shows and the online opinion site? What measures are the Board and management taking to resolve this lopsided situation? If none, or unsatisfactory, should the Board and management continue to hold their positions of trust and responsibility?
4) How is the regular appearance of individuals such as ex-Liberal Minister, Peter Reith, on panel shows and the online opinion site not in breach of impartiality requirements? How is the appointment of another ex-Liberal Minister, Amanda Vanstone, for a temporary hosting spot on Radio National not in breach of the spirit of non-partisanship?
5) What measures are the Board and management taking to return the broadcaster to neutrality and to salvage the ABC’s eroding reputation?
I’m swimming against the tide here, but a few weeks ago I emailed the ABC after Leigh Sales said that Julian Assange was wanted on charges of sexual assault. A few nights later she acknowledged the error and correctly said he is wanted for questioning and has not been charged with anything.
It’s not all bad. For news, try ABC News Radio and for depth try any of the ABC’s splendid programs eg Mark Colvin’s Friday Late, Background Briefing, Rear Vision, and others – all downloadable for listening at a time to suit you.
I have sent emails to ABC complaining about their reporting and told them to start reporting like the Independent Australia. The closest response was Leigh Sales with abbott. Another example with one of their Reporters was on ABC24 News this morning. George Roberts ‘interrogating’ Minister of Defence,
Stephen Smith. I am pleased to say Mr Smith put the ignorant Reporter in his place. The usual treatment of ABC Reporters
interviewing Labor Ministers.
I remember when John Howard stacked the board of the ABC (sorry can’t recall the year) I felt pretty sure then that things were going to change. Isn’t it strange that when the ABC did report the truth, in the long gone days before “The Drum” when analysis was about policy and criticism was equally aimed at all sides, that the conservatives denounced the ABC as being full of left wing sympathises and therefore biased. Given that even the msm in the US has acknowledged that the conservatives are full of lies, as pointed out in another article on this site. And given that Tony Abbott and his party have an immense cache of reported and as yet unreported lies and distortions. Also given the power of social media, is it possible that we may be seeing the beginnings of a change in how we perceive Left and Right? Left=Truth, Right=Lies. I have always said, “give a liar enough rope and they will eventually hang themselves”
Cuppa you are right about the IPA being given so much exposure on the ABC, The Drum and so on. Especially as one of their most right wing pundits who wrote on The Drum has now gone to advise Tony Abbott.
Why aren’t socialist or left leaning think tanks provided equal space or time ?. As it is the IPA is allowed to spruik it propaganda unchallenged.
Likewise Q&A a fortnight ago with 2 News Ltd contributors : Janet Albrechtsen & Graham Richardson given a voice. Why no independent journalists, say from the Green weekly, Matilda or Indigenous Times?
In fact why in the hell is News Ltd with it’s dominance allowed a further voice on TV?
Did anyone see Leigh Sales’ powder puff interview with Joe Hockey last night? Has she been reprimanded for the Abbott interview and told to pull her head in? Is the Abbott interview the last we will see of proper scrutiny on the ABC?
I just want to butt in here to give my 2 bobs worth. I agree with Jay Rosen, that journalists should be outsiders, not insiders.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2862328.html
The current ABC tactic of getting journalists from other outlets to comment about current affairs and even specialist matters, like the military, seems to me to be utterly ridiculous.
Why gve journalists an extra voice apart from the voice they already have on their own publication. It is pretty clear that the people in charge of the ABC think one of either two things, maybe both:
1. Journalists are smarter than ordinary people, therefore their views should be given greater weight; and or
2. The media should look after their own.
The truth is, journalists have no greater expertise than any other person – they may have less, since most don’t live in the real world the rest of society inhabits and get most of their information from people like themselves — estranged from the real world.
The fact the ABC fills up countless programming hours effectively promoting the hacks from other organisations – essentially publicising them – strikes me as being a form of advertising for these other outlets – something against the ABC charter, which doesn’t, of course, allow advertising.
You may notice that we usually don’t have journalists or celebrities write for IA – with some exceptions, like for the esteemed Rodney E. Lever. We prefer to get real experts, like academics, or people with interesting new viewpoints from the general community. We are a better publication as a result, in my view.
(But then I would say that, wouldn’t I?)
Couldn’t agree more with Cuppa. Add to his/her list the News Ltd staff who have ABC gigs e.g. Joe Hildebrand, Alan Kohler and Denis Shanahan. Then there is relationship between Chris Uhlman who co-wrote a novel with Steve Lewis of the Herald Sun.
Good article by the way…the ABC is preparing itself to be putty in Abbott’s hands should he win the next election.
I have recalcitrant Crohn’s disease that has not gone properly into remission even after major surgery to remove a big chuck of my bowel, years on prednisilone, immunosuppresents and controlled diet.
The drugs have worsened the arthritis in knees, ankles and back to such a degree it hurts to walk up stairs, I cannot stand in one place for more than a few minutes without agony, the fatigue is mind numbing and the constant exhaustion worse.
At one point the Commonwealth doctor told me to see a shrink and I would be all better.
But the two worst programs in recent times have been done by Sarah Ferguson and her ridiculous people smugglng lies.
The man she called Abdul Kadem in the first story and Al Kuwaiti in the second was not a smuggler, he was a victim of our brutal regime of years of incarceration, the destruction of his wife and kids and the wrongful trafficking of them twice – once to Vietnam on false papers made by DFAT, he was bounced back and sent back to jail here before being dumped at the Jordan border with nothing and forced to enter Iraq where most of the family had not lived.
They were almost killed often of course because it was October 2003 and the coalition of the killing were bombing the crap out of Iraq.
He was back in Indonesia for a very personal reason when Ferguson’s spy set him up. The spy working for Sarah Ferguson and adopted by her and Tony Jones was a vicious member of Saddams republican guard, a man rejected as a refugee himself getting revenge on other refugees.
That caused untold problems for many – although finally we are going to stop jailing and torturing the Indonesian crews.
Now the question is – did Sarah Ferguson know Kadem’s real history? Of course she did but she simply did not care that she was ruining him and his family.
just before i came here i noticed a story on the abc headed: “abbott moves to end internal rift over cubbie selloff”.
talk about a major ideoligical difference in a so called coalition spun into apparently strong leadership.
i can’t help thinking if this was the labor party the headline would be: “gillard scrabbles to unite a fractured labor”.
maybe the abc IS trying to suck up to their possible futue paymasters.
I have been a critic of the ABC for a while know on many forums, their standards are falling to the level of the commercial stations,and I agree with the summary of Tony Jones on Q&A…
The ABC was subject to media audits on a fairly regular basis to rule out the possibility of bias or perceived bias. The results were made available to the public, and I think they were conducted by a company named Media Monitors.
Does anyone know if these audits still occur and if not why were they stopped?
@bundysmum, very good question! I too would very much like to know if Media Monitors still audits the ABC. And if so, where do we access the audit reports please? And if they were stopped when and why and did that happen?
Balanced and objective?! No way! The ABC is anti civic, undemocratic, extremely biased, engaged in groupthink and is NOT in any way fulfilling its important 4th estate function and duty to the public by holding government to account and demanding answers! We know we cannot rely on the ABC for the truth! The ABC is a disgrace and simply infuriating for suppressed domestic human rights victims like Jordan and me!
And Q&A is definitely NOT democracy in action as they claim. I feel the people at the ABC are pre-occupied with protecting their jobs above all and little else! Oh! Am I allowed to say this? I guess I may as well as the regime’s ABC is clearly determined to keep on suppressing us at all cost! Q&A is in fact the mockcracy of political debate/journalism, if you can even call it that!
To me it is just absolute Quatsch without any pertinent Answers! My fb notes page and YouTube channel has more information on the systematic suppression of a high level political cover-up and the politically motivated police brutality and police witch hunt activated at the very top against a young unrepresented Queensland school bullying and judicial corruption victim.
And these four articles by Independent Australia investigated and covered what the ABC repeatedly refused to investigate and report! http://www.independentaustralia.net/tag/jordan-nash/ And dare I say the ABC’s media complaints process is an adversarial nightmare, which lacks credibility and probity big time and is simply designed to wear people down and dissuade them from lodging a complaint in the first place! Ethical framework and the ABC? They wouldn’t have a clue!!!
Sad to see the ABC has slipped almost to the appalling level of the commercial news rubbish. I thought Q&A might be worth a look, but after watching the way Jones treated Julia Gillard I gave it away too. Haven’t watched 4 Corners or the 7.30 Report for zonks either. Leigh Sales was the only glimmer of hope.
The ABC had such a high standard but no more.
Where are the people of the calibre of Martin Royal,John Chance,James Dibble,and Caroline Jones?
I rarely listen to RN any more yet it used to be aural wallpaper. Some time ago, a sneering journo (Geoff somebodyorother) was reporting on moves to extend retail trading hours in WA, implying that the Labor Opposition was refusing to all citizens the right to shop at any time. With no axe to grind, I suggested bias in that several referenda had rejected widespread Sunday trading but this was not included in his report. He did reply, noting that one of his interviewers had mentioned this. Well, yes. But he didn’t.