People in different political parties can seem more alike and be more comfortable with each other, than with members of their own parties, writes David Horton.
IT IS OFTEN REMARKED that people in different political parties can seem more alike and be more comfortable with each other, than with members of their own parties. The reason is simple. Political parties are composed of no more than three kinds of people (what follows is based on Australia, but with minor variations could also be used for the U.S. and the UK) — idealists, ideologues, careerists.
The careerists of both sides have little interest in policy or ideology.
Such people join the Liberal Party in a natural progression, just as they might join the Melbourne Club. A brief stint as a lawyer, into politics, on to diplomacy, into lucrative seats on the boards of big companies. It’s just what people like us do, dear chap, what our families and friends do, have always done. One expects, naturally, to be a minister, but the purpose of being so, except for providing mates’ rates on government projects for friends, is of less interest than the tailor who has made one’s suit. Just give them the party platform, whatever it is, and they’ll go along with it and be sure to stick their hands up at the right times. In return, the lucrative business opportunities to make serious money will emerge naturally from the contacts made.
Much the same on the Labor side. Some university training, perhaps in Law, activity in a suitable union, involving administration in some way, into politics, into diplomacy perhaps, on to Boards of medium-sized companies and statutory authorities. Friends and family will have often followed similar career trajectories. If you are smart you’ll become a minister, but apart from making decisions that will benefit causes you and your friends hold dear, just give them the party platform, tell them which faction they are in, and the hand will be raised at the right time. In return, after, or even during political life, business opportunities will arise that make poor boys from the wrong side of the tracks or the wrong side of the ocean, rich almost beyond the dreams of avarice.
The ideologues who join the Liberals do so because this is the Party that will, for purely pragmatic reasons, support them. A gaggle of true believers in one or more of Libertarianism, neo-conservatism, union-bashing, fundamentalist religions, racism, climate change denial, anti-vaccination, guns, anti-environmentalism, war, the rich, anti-fluoridation, misogyny, anti-abortion, xenophobia, creationism, gay bashing, the 1950s, find a warm and welcoming roof over their heads in the Liberal Party. They come from small community groups and even smaller astro-turf groups. Once, they would have found themselves on the very back seat of the very back row of the Back Bench, these days they find themselves as Shadow Ministers and Ministers. And where once ministers might be selected for their expertise in, say, education or health, these days the ideologues will find themselves in charge of that which they hate most — climate change deniers as environment minister for example, xenophobes in immigration, religious fundamentalists in science, union bashers in workplace relations, anti-vaccers in health, creationists in education, and so on. In later life, they will go back to doing what they were doing before political life, listening to shock jocks and taking part in virulent demonstrations outside abortion clinics or refugee bureaus.
The ideologues who join Labor often do so from Union backgrounds. They do so because of the chance to sing “solidarity forever” out of tune at union meetings, and to be totally supported by fellow colleagues, while having a platform to rant about their particular obsession, which may be total support for union activity regardless of any other consideration, fundamentalist religions, racism, climate change denial, anti-vaccination, guns, anti-environmentalism, war, the rich, anti fluoridation, misogyny, anti-abortion, xenophobia, creationism, gay bashing, the 1950s. They rarely seek ministerial glory (and would be seen as too loopy to get it), but are much happier in the back rooms deciding who does get the ministries and what policies are followed. They can it seems block environmental action, same-sex marriage, serious climate change moves, a compassionate attitudes to refugees, while supporting chaplains in schools. Later life will be the same.
The idealists in the Liberal Party hark back to the golden age of small-l liberalism, back to the time of Menzies, and believe it still forms the core of the Liberal Party. They imagine the Party as a “Broad Church”, one where many voices and points of view are welcomed, indeed encouraged, where one is free to be an individual (unlike of course the regimented group-think of Labor), where merit is recognised. There may be small-l libertarian, small-b business, and small-r religious beliefs involved. They believe, or believe they believe, in science, rationalism, humanism, and that they are the children of the Enlightenment. In spite, or rather because, of these beliefs, in government they find themselves shunted into low status soft ministries (like arts or environment or social services) or left on the back bench, where they may occasionally consider crossing the floor in relation to issues such as refugees. In later life, they find themselves heading community service organisations, or becoming professors of public medicine, or practising pro bono legal work, or working for causes such as refugees or Aboriginal people.
The idealists in the Labor Party are drawn to it, moths to a flame, by the Light on the Hill, believing that the Party is still that of Curtin, Chifley and Whitlam. They come into it not via the unions but via universities and community organisations. They imagine Labor is a Broad Church where a diversity of ideas and opinions are encouraged, individuality welcomed, unlike the Liberal Party with its iron party discipline. They believe in small-s socialism, small-e environmentalism, small-a atheism. They believe, or believe they believe, in science, rationalism, humanism, and that they are the children of the Enlightenment. In spite, or rather because, of these beliefs, in government they find themselves shunted into low status soft ministries (like arts or environment or social services) or left on the back bench, where they may occasionally consider crossing the floor in relation to issues such as refugees. In later life they find themselves heading community service organisations, or becoming professors of public medicine, or practising pro bono legal work, or working for causes such as refugees or Aboriginal people.
Clearly, those within each category, irrespective of party, will have a lot in common. Labor and Liberal careerists may combine on a more or less shady business deal; Labor and Liberal ideologues opposing abortion will find themselves at the same rally or prayer meeting; Labor and Liberal idealists will find themselves signing the same petitions, joining the same university departments. Each pair may well find themselves complaining about how bad their careerist and ideologue colleagues, say, are.
What is needed, clearly, is a mechanism for converting the two parties into three.
(This story was originally published on David Horton’s The Watermelon Blog and has been republished with permission. You can follow David on Twitter @Watermelon_Man.)

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12 Comments
Dead right! Need a 3rd way to keep the other 2 accountable. Plus give choice to the electorate. What would be even better is if they actually taught Government properly in schools so that punters were better educated on what they were actually voting for, many of the ‘careerists’ may not cut the muster if the public were more informed and had a higher expectation?
Then there is that (thankfully) endangered species, the National Party hominid.
Most of them are evolving into Independents, though one of them appears
likely to be Deputy PM. That primitive throwback B.Joyce will be a heartbeat
away from the Lodge.
Brendan O”Connor was the minister in charge when nearly 180 Indonesian children were illegally jailed in our rotten prisons as so-called people smugglers.
Now that ridiculous little creep has the gall to claim the prison conditions on Manus that we have all seen now are adequate yet puppy farms that look just the same are closed down as inadequate and cruel.
Why don’t these racist migrants all go home.
A Ménage à Trois in politics may seem desirable, but as in any other sphere, it rarely works out. At the end of the day, politics is all about the distribution of wealth. Conservatives want to hang onto it (radical conservatives try to get some or all of it back) and progressives want to spread it around a bit more. Single issue or totally idealistic third parties glow like taper, very brightly at first but soon burn out to be replaced by the next big thing.It’s one thing to have a big idea; it’s another to implement it, particularly against the opposition of those who run the joint. I must admit, I’m not as anti politician as most others. In fact, if people reckon they can do better then they should run themselves either through a party, by establishing a new one or by standing as an independent. They’ll soon find out that the populus is a little more fickle that they let on. You can see how the rich are making it very difficult for the oldest and biggest party to survive let alone any newbie. Starting up a whole lot of splinter groups will only make that worse and play into the hands of the devil.
Marilyn
I am like most contributors sick to death of your hijacking topics to your obsessions. Nick off.
On topic, it would be nice to see small “l” Liberals again. it would be nice to see traditional Labor Party policy (in gheneral …like no obversion to deficits because Fat Joe bellows deficits are bad. Followed by his masters in MSM.
Imagine a MSM fair to both sides, where it might happen.
But just don’t hold your breath.
Nice article David, nicely cynical
I agree with PamK comments, very well put! I hope I correctly remember a quote from Hilary Clinton, to paraphrase, she said despite the imperfect nature of politics & politicians the alternative was war or dictatorship.
Oh dear comments all over the place.
Marilyn I’ll be more polite than Phil but I agree with him.
I’m totally sympathetic to the refugee cause.
Butt you are becoming your own worst enemy by continually sabotaging different avenues with your focused cause.
I see your name in just about every venue I venture to and on the same topic.
Please, the plight of refugees is paramount and relevant but stay focused. The more you become so myopic the less people will listen.
What you say is pertinent , but there are specific avenues and times to vent.
Choose them carefully and you will be heard.
Otherwise no one will listen, it’s obvious of late you are losing sympathisers.Take a big breath, a few days/weeks off and focus.
IA is a breath of fresh air relish it.
I thought she had improved, was showing some restraint; posting comments on topic. But here we go again, more tirades; against anyone and everyone who wants to contribute and read according to the topic at hand.
She doesn’t get enough exposure?
Maybe I should start berating just any stream with my knowledge of the corrupt and deficient aged care system. One of a number of topics I have first hand experience with, and moreover which are hardly ever touched on in the Media, or even here. That would be OK?
And it would be OK if everyone with special knowledge and experience simply used any stream here to vent their frustration? Still OK?
The point is obvious. She gets a privilege by sheer presumption; which if others exercised would render this site a mess. By herself she clogs and diverts discussions, and turns them tedious.
She acts like a jackboot. I have asked this before: what would happen to an asylum seeker who just happened to disagree with her?
Quite right David, but I think it unlikely that a third party can emerge unless a cataclysm happens first that smashes the power of the careerists in at least one of the parties. Of course what careerists do best is protect themselves.
It interests me that the right is the natural position for the self interested, in both Labor and Liberal parties. Surely this is message enough for the Australian people that they will do for themselves before they do anything for others, and do not have the best interests of the nation in mind
I would be interested to hear more from you about how the notion of aspiration has allowed these career politicians to hijack the agenda. It seems to me we allow their self interest because we too want to be self interested rich people.
MH, I am so sick of you carrying on about the aged care system!
I agree – Marilyn, please stay on topic or start your own website.
Its gotten past the point of annoying.
To the point that I’ll skip anything/everything you say because its exactly the same message each time – no need to read the same rant again and again and again. And 95% of the time off topic.
We all got it the first time(s)
I don’t come here to read personal rants that have nothing to do with the subject at hand.
“actually taught Government properly in schools ” Either that or watch “yes minister”, read “Dilbert” you will actually get very accurate insight
I have always been a Labor supporter.
I will do whatever it takes to keep the LNP out of Government.
I do not always agree with Labor policy.
When I don’t I write to the Prime Minister relevant Ministers and my local MP.
I believe that going on a site like this and bad mouthing them only gives ammunition to the LNP
I figure Labor is better for my country, for my kids and grandkids, so I will always support Labor.
I really don’t find it helpful to the LAbor cause when posters like Marilyn S bag almost everything, relevent to the Government.
the LNP and MSM do enough of that, without getting help from one of “Ours”