Contributing editor-at-large Tess Lawrence reports on the links between convicted drug dealer Tony Mokbel and the National Australia Bank.
OVERBELLY
It came as no surprise to anyone in the Supreme Court of Victoria on Tuesday, when Kuwaiti-born Antonios ‘Fat Tony’ Sajih Mokbel, so named because he is more overbelly than underbelly, learned from Justice Simon Whelan that he would be blowing out the candles on his 47th birthday cake next month, behind bars in Barwon Prison.
And another 29 birthdays after that, unless the industrial strength drug manufacturer and narcotics sales rep behaves himself and qualifies for an effective non-parole period of 22 years — two years less than his life expectancy, according to one doctor.
Or unless he meets the same fate as his late mate Carl Williams in Barwon.
Bub-faced Williams was pulverised to dead meat with a metal bar wielded by his own cellmate (go figure), the brutal recidivist offender Matthew Johnson in full view of, and clearly indifferent to, an observation camera; a horror movie right there on the CCTV.
But no-one was shocked out of their minds.
Johnson was obviously without fear of being interrupted, even going for a few victory laps after the killing in the yard with fellow cellmate and weasely acolyte, Tommy Ivanovic (go figure again) before interrupting a female prison attendant who might have been reading her horoscope or line dancing, or whatever is the designated prison warden pastime in Barwon’s Acacia maximum security unit, whilst inmates bludgeon one another to death.
The ever helpful Johnson suggested she should press the alarm bell for Williams.
Yes folks, that’s the State of Victoria for you. Not only do our prisoners openly kill their cellmates, they also have the good grace to drag the corpse back to its prison cell before they give the prison guardette the heads up.
Mokbel, too, is housed in Barwon’s Acacia MSU. Mind you, it did not escape our irony to hear His Honour say, in the light of Mokbel’s medical condition, that prison officers were trained in Level 1 First Aid.
A fat lot of good that did Carl Williams — let alone the cold comfort it might bring Fat Tony.
His Honour told Mokbel that
“You are monitored when out of your cell and there is a distress button in your cell.”
Er…not always your Honour. Who watches the watchers? No one, it seems.
Fat Tony is known to police and our headlines for many things and Justice Whelan reminded us of some of them.
Who can forget him absconding from Australia whilst on bail (go figure again).
We’re very lax about such things in Victoria.
We always give a mother sucker an even break.
Anyhow Mr Mokbel, as befitting a man of his status and discretion, got himself a yacht and sailed away for a year and a day or two to Greece, the land where the bongs and olive trees also grow.
Fat Tony took some honey, and plenty of money, with which he bought a big hair silly wig that made him look like a dork.
He grew a beard that was greasier than his reputation.
Given his Lebanese background, he looked as Greek as Demis Roussos — who was actually born in Alexandria.
All in all, for a time it was to prove a perfect disguise. Until Fat Tony was arrested five years ago on June 6 in Athens.
Mokbel fought extradition from Greece tooth and wig and it wasn’t until May 17, 2008 that he was escorted back home, finally touching down at Tullamarine Airport under armed escort in a plane paid for by the Australian taxpayer.
The Mokbel saga has cost Victoria millions of dollars — a piddling amount compared with the costs and havoc this self-serving drug seller has wrought upon the lives of thousands of Australians and their families.
It would be difficult to calculate the number of deaths of young and older people from drugs sourced and supplied by this Merchant of Menace.
Let us add suicides and accidental overdose to that ever increasing list. And not just immediate victims, either.
There are the babies who are born junkies.
If you have never heard a newly born babe screaming in withdrawal agony, you are indeed lucky.
It is a primal scream that forever haunts those who hear it.
Perhaps these screams should be included in victim impact statements before the courts. They might go some way to informing the community that not everyone who is on drugs gives informed consent.
Whilst Fat Tony had no compunction in dealing in drugs, by all accounts, he was not a user or in
the slightest way bothered by infant addicts. No try before you buy for Mokbel.
Perhaps aspects of his Christian upbringing prevailed; do unto others that which you wouldn’t do to yourself.
But Mokbel was also a compulsive gambler and became a drug dealer to fuel this obsession. He got his highs, and presumably his lows, through this addiction of another kind.
Justice Whelan’s sentencing also provided a pocketbook bio on the Mokbel story so far.
[Read Justice Whelan’s judgement in PDF here.]
We learned that Antonios arrived in Australia when he was 8 years old. Both parents were to work in factories and His Honour told us they were illiterate, as indeed, many migrants continue to be — and as are many of us, who are lazily trafficked through our education and prison systems.
Mokbel’s own literacy skills were described by Whelan as “limited”.
His father died of a heart attack on Mokbel’s 15th birthday — after which, we are told, he left school never to return.
Earlier this year, Fat Tony had a stent inserted, after suffering a mild heart attack whilst in custody; coronary heart disease being a family trait.
It seems the teenage Mokbel had trouble adjusting to his father’s death and, according to Consultant Forensic Psychologist Ms Wendy Northey, his early criminal record
“is largely indicative of an angry, largely oppositionally defiant young man with anti-social traits and poor emotional regulation at times.”
In Court, Her Majesty the Queen was defended in this Diamond Jubilee year against her recalcitrant subject Mokbel, by her solicitors at the Office of Public Prosecutions and Counsels, Mr Peter Kidd SC and Ms Fran Dalziel.
HRH was not in attendance.
After Whelan’s sentencing of Mokbel, it didn’t take very long for his Wikipedia entry to be updated, as befitting a kingpin drug pusher and tribal punk elevated to celebrity status via Victoria’s ‘Gangland Wars’, the deep pockets of Victoria Police’s incompetence and corruption and at times a combination of both.
I have more than a passing interest in Fat Tony’s exploits and his dealings with the National Australia Bank.
For some months, I have been investigating and documenting the corrupt conduct and abuse of process and collusion by the NAB, McKean Park Lawyers and the Bankruptcy Trustee they appointed.
Readers will be aware that in a home invasion of my home and regional office in Daylesford, all of my personal possessions were stolen, among them every single box of office files and projects representing a number of investigative projects and a number of documentaries in pre-production.
In a frenzy of looting, even load bearing fittings were ripped out of the home, others left half-hanging on the walls. Curtains, curtain rods, blinds, garden hoses, tools, fire screens, even lightbulbs were illegally seized, including preserves and food in the fridge, the lawnmower and
the backyard bulldozed and old apple and apricot trees ripped out and pipes damaged as a consequence.
Those investigative files included documents, transcripts, tape recordings, memory sticks, video footage and interviews concerning National Australia Bank loans to Tony Mokbel and criminal associates and ventures and other gangland figures.
These loans amounted to multimillion dollar sums, knowingly lent to gangland and underworld players, many of whom had notched up convictions and prison sentences.
For some time, the National Australia Bank has been aware that I had this material.
The NAB is aware that I gathered extensive information and statements from whistleblowers and past and present employees.
It has busied itself ‘cleansing’ the internet from numerous references about the Mokbel and other loans to criminals and indeed wiping from the net, the NAB’s own fraudulent activities in Australia and elsewhere and, make no mistake — there are many such recorded incidents.
It is a pity that it has the words ‘ National Australia’ before ‘Bank’, because so often it is wrongly assumed overseas that this means the NAB is our government’s national bank.
Only recently, on April 1 this year, forensic financial analyst Lynton Freeman, himself a litigant in person against the NAB, revealed in his investigative article headlined ‘National Australia Bank redacts website to hide customer refunds’ on Independent Australia that the NAB sneakily redacts even its own website.
But it was no April Fools’ Day joke on unwitting customers and shareholders.
This time the NAB was caught out, when a ‘before’ webpage frame was captured and compared with the ‘after.’
One well known criminal identity informed me ‘the NAB was our bank of choice’ because “they asked no questions and filled out the forms for us and wrote their own references for us”.
Indeed they did.
In an article written by The Australian’s Natasha Robinson on September 30, 2007, headlined ‘Banker praised Mokbel’s integrity’ the extent of such helpful support of Mokbel by NAB bank managers, was exposed in these words:
‘Tony Mokbel’s integrity was praised in a series of credit reports that convinced National Australia Bank (NAB) to lend the drug baron $A5.7m. As police investigated Mokbel for the production of amphetamines, NAB business banking manager Ken Collins stated in internal documents that Mokbel’s wealth was the result of his success as a professional gambler. NAB lent Mokbel $A5.7m mostly in the late 1990s for real estate developments and his failed fashion venture. He had convictions for receiving…’
The NAB, of course, is notorious for its creative writing and fictitious court documents.
I can’t find the rest of the article at the time of going to press, but Natasha says it all anyway.
I can vouch that there were once numerous references and links to this article, but now – curiously – up comes the ubiquitous ‘page deleted’ tag every time I try to access the story. Give it a go yourself.
Sometimes the crims got high profile figures to write references on their behalf.
Sometimes these dudes were lawyers, sometimes they were politicians.
Tony Mokbel hit the referee jackpot when he got two for the price of one in then Shadow Attorney
General Kelvin Thomson, who, despite never having met Mokbel, nonetheless wrote him a reference on the vouching of a solicitor.
On March 9, 2007, AAP (Australian Associated Press) helped all potential CV writers and referees by publishing in full, Thomson’s reference.
Text of Kelvin Thomson’s reference for Tony Mokbel, dated 31st August, 2000:
To Whom It May Concern,
I have been asked to provide a reference on behalf of Mr Tony Mokbel of 25 Grandview Avenue, Pascoe Vale South, who will be submitting his application for a liquor licence to the Liquor Licensing Commission.
I understand that Mr Mokbell (sic) has been married for the past eight years and has two children. I further understand that over the past eight years he has been a responsible caring husband and father.
Mr Mokbel has in partnership purchased a number of business properties in the Brunswick area. As a result of his business and property ventures Mr Mokbel is making a significant contribution to the community and employing a substantial number of people.
I urge you to take into account Mr Mokbel’s last years of unblemished conduct, his commitment to family and his successful establishment as a local businessman in making your decision concerning his application.
Your sincerely,
Kelvin Thomson, MP
Member for Wills
The hapless Mr Thomson under the zero-tolerance standards of his Leader, Kevin Rudd, was compelled to resign over the Mokbel(l) reference.
In his famous article in the much respected Counterpunch on December 12 that same year, political economist Professor Evan Jones wrote a scathing expose about the National Australia Bank.
His article was a landmark victory for truth telling and it says much about the bleak stranglehold that the NAB has on much of the Australian media, that the Professor’s article was first published on a US-based website.
On the Mokbel matter, Jones wrote:
“In the late 1990s, NAB lent a certain Tony Mokbel A$5.7 million to pursue various business interests. The suburban Melbourne bank manager’s credit reports described Mokbel thus: ‘Visionary Mokbel’s integrity is beyond reproach Business associates hold Mokbel in the highest esteem’. Part of the credit involved unauthorized overdrafts and an unsecured loan. Mokbel was arrested in 2001 on drugs charges and his assets frozen, prompting NAB to review its credit evaluation. Mokbel, described by the media as ‘the state’s most prolific amphetamines manufacturer’, fled Australia and is currently fighting extradition from Greece.”
The materials and personal possessions that the NAB and McKean Park have stolen from me contain highly sensitive and confidential information.
I have serious concerns about the extent that the National Australia Bank, McKean Park and its sordid team of bottom feeders, will go to, to protect themselves.
I am concerned for the safety and wellbeing of my informants and sources and the brave whistleblowers who entrusted me with this information.
I am concerned for their friends and families.
Other material of mine was also stolen by the Law Institute of Victoria from the suburban offices of solicitor Ross Delahunty. Acting for the Law Institute of Victoria is none other than McKean Park Lawyers, who are also on several Law Institute committees.
On May 9 last year, at the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court, I was subjected to death threats and attempts to get me to change my evidence by a lawyer for McKean Park.
These both can constitute criminal offences.
The death threats and the thefts were reported to Victoria Police. Potential witnesses have not even been interviewed.
The Federal Court in Victoria persists in its refusal to ensure I am provided with a correct and complete transcript of a hearing before his Honour Justice Jessup on January 31 this year.
Despite repeated emails, phone calls and letters, I am still waiting for this transcript, given it has
information critical to my bankruptcy annulment and court matters.
Their Honours Justice Nettle and Kyrou, in the Court of Appeal on February 24, informed me that I was in the wrong jurisdiction and redirected me back to the Federal Court explaining that they had to refuse the application.
It was the Federal Court that misdirected me, insisting first that I had no avenue to appeal Jessup’s decision to refuse a late appeal (I think I was 11 days over) and then said I had to go to the High Court; when the High Court, incredulous at this, despatched me back to the Federal Court, the Federal Court insisted I had to go to the Court of Appeal.
However, their Honours adjourned the case sine die. But that fact is not on the Court records. Why not?
It is an unpleasant thing to find a dead rat and faeces in your letterbox and to get repulsive messages and threats.
Threats to me are one thing. Threats to others because of me and stories I am writing and campaigns I am involved with, are quite another thing altogether.
The National Australia Bank is on public notice that I refuse to be silenced by their thuggery and their constant and irritating, intimidating stalking and photo-taking.
I have no compunction in saying the NAB has lied to the Court. I will not use the phrase
‘misled’ the Court, because I have proof that they knowingly lied to the Court.
Further, in the shocking Matt Norman case, I have witnessed in Court not only outrageous abuses of process and unacceptable conduct from court practitioners and staff – but from Justice Judd himself. As did the dozens of Norman supporters in Court that day.
I will reveal more about the NAB, Tony Mokbel and the NAB’s other gangland/criminal relationships in due course.
It is time, now, for a national inquiry into the activities and conduct and corporate culture of the National Australia Bank.
It might well kid itself and some of its customers and shareholders that it is the fourth pillar of banking in Australia.
You can con some of the people some of the time but you can’t con all of the people all of the time.
As the NAB itself says ‘KNOW YOUR ENEMY’.

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48 Comments
ABSOLUTE GOLD!!:
“Mr Mokbel has in partnership purchased a number of business properties in the Brunswick area. As a result of his business and property ventures Mr Mokbel is making a significant contribution to the community and employing a substantial number of people.
I urge you to take into account Mr Mokbel’s last years of unblemished conduct, his commitment to family and his successful establishment as a local businessman in making your decision concerning his application.”
Dear TERRA AUSTRALIS, and that’s only one of the many references and testamonials provided by certain members of the ‘the establishment’on behalf of Tony Mokbel,let alone the blatant lies and internal reports extolling his virtues by certain NAB bank managers and other personnel.
hang on, you cant make statements like that about a bank who’s latest advertisement cleary states quiet loudly that “Honesty deserves to be rewarded” or some such nonsensical slogan which by any stretch of the imagination cannot be seriously associated with banking. Can you????
Dear OLDFART, that’s codex for ” Dishonesty deserves to be rewarded ” like their other motto ” More take. Less Give.”
Hi Tess,
Yes, if the “Member for Wills” (shades of an popular PM there, just in the title) reference was GOLD, then THE NAB STUFF IS PURE PLATINUM!!:
“NAB lent a certain Tony Mokbel A$5.7 million to pursue various business interests. The suburban Melbourne bank manager’s credit reports described Mokbel thus: ‘Visionary Mokbel’s integrity is beyond reproach Business associates hold Mokbel in the highest esteem’. Part of the credit involved unauthorized overdrafts and an unsecured loan.”
‘INTEGRITY BEYOND REPROACH’ !!
C-L-A-S-S-I-C!!!!!!
No wonder they were after your files!
Dear TERRA AUSTRALIS, you do your homework TA! Yes, although he never lived in the area, I take it, you’re referring to Bob Hawke re Wills.
By the way, have you had another go at getting back your Aussie passport yet ?
MOKBEL UPDATE. HE’S APPEALING.
This from THE AGE’s ADRIAN LOWE this arvo: –
*http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/mokbel-to-appeal-against-sentence-20120705-21jm5.html
Hi Tess,
I have to fly to Auckland to do the interview etc to get my passport back — will do all that on my next trip there. After 14 years, I don’t really mind a few more weeks without it. [I would love to get our home back too - that pinched that too, when we were booted out).
Yes, I was referring to Bob -- the title "Member for Wills" and RJ Hawke are almost synonymous for me.
My favourite Bob joke (maybe it was true??) is this:
Bob's dad was a minister - he had a little church in the West Perth / Leederville area that looked too narrow to seat much of a congregation, but he must have been strong and dedicated, in his Christian faith. Bob, of course, as we all know, was (is?) an atheist.
The quote, supposedly from Bob, is:
"I don't believe in God, personally. BUT, I have it on very good authority, that he believes in me".
[I was in Canberra on the day of "the dismissal" -- I have another classic Bob quote from that day too - will save for a future post.]
Dear TERRA AUSTRALIS, Good one!
Hi Tess, this is indeed informative, my former partner did some work for a stud in Victoria but was never paid, apparently the stud was in some way connected to mokbel. When he attempted to get paid he was told that as mokbel was at that stage on the run, there was no money to pay him. It caused considerable hardship at the time, not to mention the fury felt when we watched the ads on sky promoting the business.
Seems like a pretty light sentence given the spread of his business
Dear BUNDYSMUM, thank you for this important information. And BUNDY is blooming lucky that his Mum is so sharp!
May I trouble you to send an email to our Managing Editor, DAVID DONOVAN, marking it Confidential and for my attention.
I would love to know the name of that horse stud,and see if it matches up with information at hand.
David,s email address is: –
editor@independentaustralia.net
So, “the fourth pillar of banking in Australia” is in business with the underworld, major drug dealers, and criminal gangs, and provides such characters with references to their good character, and their, (wait for it!), “INTEGRITY BEYOND REPROACH”.
All the while they treat their average honest Australian customer, who works hard for decades, and then misses a mortgage payment, like a criminal. “Kick down the door!, Seize all his/her property!”
WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED??
ADRIAN LOWE’S ARTICLE IN TODAY’S AGE: –
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/mokbel-appeals-30year-sentence-20120705-21k6w.html
STOP PRESS: POLICE RAID BARWON PRISON OFFICERS – DRUGS TRAFFICKNG RELATED.
THE AGE’S PAUL MILLAR wrote online this afternoon: –
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/barwon-wardens-arrested-for-drug-trafficking-20120710-21t55.html
Hey Tess.
I believe he got 30years.
They should have at least added 10 for the wig!
Dear PAT, I heard a lawyer say that the other day.
You’ve both got a point.
Actually, it was more a girlie wig, don’t you think ?
I wonder who’s wearing it now ?
NATIONAL AUSTRALIA BANK SLASHING AND BURNING STAFF IN THE UK.
HERE’S A PRESS STATEMENT ON THE ‘UNITE’ WEBSITE, THE UNION CONCERNED.
LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ESTEEM IN WHICH THE NAB IS HELD IN THE UK.
Unite ’devastated’ that National Australia Group confirms 730 job losses
10 July 2012
National Australia Group (NAG) has today (Tuesday 10 July) confirmed 730 job losses across the UK from its Business and Private Banking and Risk functions, as the bank pulls out of commercial real estate lending and investment.
The confirmation that around 10 per cent of the UK workforce is to be cut is devastating news. The intention to cut a total of 1,400 UK staff over the next three years was initially announced on 30 April. After weeks of fearing the worst, the announcement today notifies 730 staff how this news will impact them.
David Fleming, Unite national officer, said: “The decision by the National Australia Group to cut 730 staff is devastating for the workforce. Unite has strongly challenged the bank on these job losses. Serious questions need to be answered by the management as to why the bank expanded in this business area so rapidly, when the model was significantly flawed.
“The closure of so many NAG sites and the migration of work will present significant difficulties for our members. Today’s news will be devastating for staff and their families, many of whom have served the bank for many years.”
The majority of job losses will take place in the bank’s Financial solutions centres at:
* West Scotland (Glasgow, Ayr, Carlisle, Falkirk, Lanarkshire & Stirling) – 60 roles
* East Scotland (Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Dundee, Inverness, Montrose, Perth) – 85 roles
* North West England (Manchester, Blackburn, Bolton, Lancaster, Liverpool, Preston & Stafford) – 85 roles
* Midlands (Birmingham, Derby, Exeter, Gloucester, Leicester, Northampton, Nottingham, Peterborough, Oxford) – 110 roles
* North East England (Leeds, Doncaster, Yorkshire, Lincolnshire) – 160 roles
* South (London, Bury, High Wycombe, reading, St Albans) – 150 roles
The job losses come off the back of an operating loss of £25 million and a change in operating model which will see the bank close 29 Financial solutions centres across the UK and co-locate a further nine. A number of regional centres will remain, but work will also migrate to six main regional UK hubs.
TONY MOKBEL IS NOT THE ONLY CRIME BOSS WHO HAD DEALINGS WITH THE NATIONAL AUSTRALIA BANK – AND READERS SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE NAB ALSO STOLE FILES FROM ME THAT HELD INFORMATION ABOUT THE NOTORIOUS ROBBERY AND OTHER CRIMES DOCUMENTED BELOW.
THE FOLLOWING MATERIAL IS FROM WIKIPEDIA: –
National Irish Bank was originally the Republic of Ireland branch network of Northern Bank, one of the oldest banks in Ireland (dating back to 1824). National Irish Bank was created as a separate entity in 1986, at first under the name Northern Bank (Ireland) Limited, when the Midland Bank, UK separated Northern Bank’s operations in the Republic of Ireland from its Northern Ireland business.
In 1987, both banks were acquired by National Australia Bank Limited. In 1988 the Republic of Ireland operation was renamed National Irish Bank Limited whilst Northern Bank Limited remains the name of the Northern Ireland operation. Nonetheless, a single management team continued to run both banks, which shared many services and back office functions. During this era, the logo of the National Irish Bank was that of the National Australia Bank (at the time), except that the red star had been recoloured green, and “Irish Bank” was added alongside the word “National”. The original Northern Bank (Ireland) logo had been the Midland Bank griffin.
[edit] Lacey era: 1988-1994
In 1988, John Lacey had been appointed CEO of NIB. He was briefed to spearhead a campaign to raise the bank’s profile, which included innovations such as lower interest rates. Lacey commissioned a high-profile advertising campaign, featuring fictitious NIB manager Martin, who would repeatedly call his cousin Niall about the great deals the bank was offering.[3]
In 1993, Irish crime lord Martin Cahill planned a raid on NIB, using then CEO Jim Lacey and his family as hostages to extract up to €10 million in cash. In early 1993 John “The Coach” Traynor met with his boss Cahill to provide him with inside information about the inner-workings of NIB at College Green, Dublin. Traynor told Cahill that the bank regularly held more than €10 million in cash in the building. The plan was to abduct Lacey, his wife and four children and take them to an isolated hiding place. There they would be held with fellow gang member, but acting as a “hostage” Jo Jo Kavanagh, who would frighten Lacey into handing over every penny stored in the bank’s vaults.[4]
On 1 November 1993, Cahill’s gang that included Brian Meehan seized Lacey and his wife outside his home in Blackrock.[3] Holding them at Lacey’s home, Kavanagh was brought in and tied up, telling the family that he had been abducted two weeks before. On 2 November, Kavanagh drove Lacey to College Green to collect the ransom money, with Lacey eventually withdrawing IR£300,000 from an accessible cash machine.[3] Kavanagh then drove the pair and the money to the local Gardi station, where he told them the pair had been kidnapped and forced to take part in a robbery.[4]
With a ransom note requesting payment of €10 million in cash, the Gardi began investigating. They quickly found that Kavanagh had claimed child allowance during his two week “capture,” and so arrested him. Cahill then planned with Kavanagh to “raid” Kavanagh’s home, and show intent to kill the Lacey family by shooting Kavanagh in the leg. Kavanagh was then to call the Irish newspapers from his hospital bed, and claim he was a victim of the Lacey kidnapping gang.[4]
However, the plan failed, and the gang were arrested. Released on bail, in 1994, Cahill was murdered by a claimed Irish Republican Army hitman close to his home in Rathmines, who had been paid for by rival drug gang crime lord and former Cahill gang member John Gilligan. In 1997, Kavanagh was jailed for 12 years for offences connected with the Lacey kidnapping.[4]
[edit] 1998 Inspection
Dismissed by National Australia Bank in 1994, Lacey was subsequently appointed CEO of publishers Lafferty, and also appointed chairman of the Irish Aviation Authority and the Dublin Docklands Development Authority.[3] However, he resigned these positions in 1998 after a report on RTE was further investigated by High Court of the Republic of Ireland. After subsequently appointing inspectors in Dublin,[5] Their report conclusions were:
* Bogus non-resident accounts in some branches enabled customers to evade tax
* Investment policies were promoted for funds undisclosed to the Revenue Commissioners
* Special Savings Accounts had Deposit Interest Retention Tax (DIRT) deducted at a reduced rate. Note: this point may be incorrect as the legal SSA product was designed to have DIRT deducted at a lower rate. Budget legislation over the past number of years has brought the reduced DIRT rate up and the standard DIRT down to a point where they both currently meet i.e.: 20%.
* There was improper charging of interest or fees to some customers. (The bank has refunded all customers who the Inspectors alleged had been mischarged.)
Following the Inspectors’ report, the Director of Corporate Enforcement took disqualification proceedings against nine former NIB personnel, none of whom has been employed by NIB since the 1990s.[6]
[edit] Changes under Danske
On 1 March 2005 Danske formally took control of National Irish Bank.
MOKBEL CLAIMS JUSTICE WHELAN BREACHED SUPPRESSION ORDER: –
From Nine’s website: –
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8498306/mokbel-sentence-may-have-breached-order
DEAR READERS,
I am writing this for my own protection,as well as those close to me, and that of my sources,informants and whistleblowers upon whose courage and trust,investigative journalists are so reliant.
I am also writing this to keep you informed and to keep faith with our promise to chronicle events.
The NATIONAL AUSTRALIA BANK as you know, stole ALL of my working files kept at my regional office in Daylesford.
They did this to rob me of extensive evidence that proves their corrupt, fraudulent and predatory conduct.
These files represent works and investigations that span more than three decades of journalism including both electronic and print journalism.
Given that my work with THE HERALD AND WEEKLY TIMES and THE BULLETIN involved a roving commission ( as does my work with Independent Australia ) I have covered a number of major stories, and well as social justice issues, that are so often linked in with such major stories.
Many of the files involve exclusive materials – some of it works still in progress.
Some of the files involved fraudulent and criminal activities and longstanding investigations into the fraudulent and corrupt activities of the NAB, both within and outside of Australia.
One such investigation and open file involves the murder and disappearance of the courageous anti-drug campaigner DONALD MACKAY and loans by the NAB to underworld figures and drug growers and distributors – and the MAFIA per se.
These files also contained information about corrupt police involved in the matter, whose role was/is imperative to the existence and survival of drug pushers and manufacturers.
At the time I secured an exclusive interview with ANN MARIE PRESLAND, mistress of the notorious ROBERT TRIMBOLE.
The interview appeared both in print and on the ABC’s 7.30Report and in a book of my interviews entitled ‘ HEADLINES.’
A $200,000 Reward has been announced in relation to Donald Mackay.
It is not enough, but it is better than nothing. Times change, and allegiances too. I urge anyone with any information to contact CRIMESTOPPERS.
I have asked the NAB to return all my documents and possessions and property, all illegally taken.
The police were not interested when I offered them copies of
the information in my possession first time around – and they could have traced the money trail within the NAB, given that I had account numbers, as I did with Tony Mokbel’s NAB accounts and accounts of other gangland figures and associates.
I am again asking the NAB here and publicly to return these and ALL of my documents, and my personal possessions and property.
For more info about the Reward, here’s a link to The Age’s online article: –
http://www.theage.com.au/national/police-hope-200000-may-prise-open-the-secret-of-donald-mackays-grave-20120713-221ke.html
MAYBE THE SUITS AT THE NATIONAL AUSTRALIA BANK HAVE SOME INFO ON MITT ROMNEY AND BAIN CAPITAL: –
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/21/us-bain-myob-idUSTRE77K0BD20110821
Bain Capital, originally led by U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney when the firm spun out from consulting group Bain & Co., is currently raising an up to $2 billion fund to invest in Asia.
Bain’s winning bid for MYOB was backed with a A$525 million financing from Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Morgan Stanley, National Australia Bank, Westpac Banking Corp and UBS, according to a source familiar with the matter.
MICK GATTO BLAMES THE NATIONAL AUSTRALIA BANK
Yesterday, Mr Gatto blamed his bankers, National Australia Bank, for the company’s financial collapse.
”We had to do that because the banks led us up the garden path. They were going to fund us then, the next minute, they pulled the carpet from underneath us,” Mr Gatto said.
SOUND FAMILIAR CONDUCT BY THE NAB?
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/gatto-crane-outfit-leans-perilously-20120714-2230b.html#ixzz20ehXV64x
HERE’S A FEW FACTS. NO IMPUTATION MADE WHATSOEVER!
HSBC DISCLOSES SHONKY DRUG MONEY LAUNDERING: –
Senate report: HSBC ‘allowed drug money laundering’
A US Senate probe has disclosed how lax controls at Europe’s largest bank left it vulnerable to being used to launder dirty money from around the world.
The report into HSBC, released ahead of a Senate hearing on Tuesday, says huge sums of Mexican drug money almost certainly passed through the bank.
Suspicious funds from Syria, the Cayman Islands, Iran and Saudi Arabia also passed through the bank.
The report into HSBC was issued by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, a Congressional watchdog that looks at financial improprieties.
“We take responsibility for fixing what went wrong ”
Stuart Gulliver Chief executive, HSBC
The year-long inquiry, which included a review of 1.4 million documents and interviews with 75 HSBC officials and bank regulators, will be the focus of a hearing on Tuesday at which HSBC executives are scheduled to testify.
These will include HSBC’s chief legal officer Stuart Levey, who joined the bank in January and was previously one of the top officials on terrorism and finance at the US Treasury Department.
In a memo released ahead of the hearing, HSBC chief executive Stuart Gulliver said: “It is right that we will be held accountable and that we take responsibility for fixing what went wrong.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18866018#
THE NATIONAL AUSTRALIA BANK HAS LINKS WITH HSBC: –
Corrupted file crashes NAB payments
By Liz Tay on Nov 29, 2010 11:18 AM
Partner banks Citibank, HSBC also affected.
Errors have been introduced into more than 19,000 National Australia Bank accounts as the bank worked to rectify a “corrupted file” that crashed its payment processing system on Wednesday night.
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/240043,corrupted-file-crashes-nab-payments.aspx
OH, THAT’S NICE, READ HOW NAB AND HSBC AND OTHERS ARE HELPING TO GREEN THE GULF: –
Islamic Debt Spurred in $15 Billion Opportunity for Greener Gulf
By Sally Bakewell – Feb 28, 2012 7:28 PM
A body promoting development of debt sales to tackle climate change, with sponsors including National Australia Bank Ltd. and HSBC Holdings Plc, plans to spur green Islamic bond markets as the Middle East diversifies from oil.
The Climate Bonds Initiative, which has advisers from Morgan Stanley and Bank of America Corp.’s Merrill Lynch, will set up a panel to help create financial products complying with Islamic shariah law, Chairman Sean Kidney said. It will work with the Clean Energy Business Council, an Abu Dhabi-based group with members including General Electric Co. (GE) and GDF Suez SA.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-28/islamic-debt-spurred-in-15-billion-opportunity-for-greener-gulf.html
NOW WOULD THE GDF SUEZ SA MENTIONED IN THE ABOVE ARTICLE BE THE SAME SUEZ MENTIONED IN OUR ARTICLE ABOUT ANN MARIE KELLY AND METRO
WHO TRIED TO GAG HER FROM SPEAKING OUT ?: –
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/business/sacked-metro-chief-tries-to-gag-blind-woman/
GOODNESS GRACIOUS, IT’S A SMALL WORLD AIN’T IT.
STAY WITH US AUSTRALIA. OF COURSE, NO IMPUTATION WHATSOEVER INTENDED.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/nabs-two-uk-lenders-in-hedging-probe-20120718-229su.html
* Such a coincidence that the NAB stole files concerning these matters; documents and evidence from my Daylesford home and regional office.
THANK YOU RICHARD BAKER AND NICK MCKENZIE,OF THE AGE/FAIRFAX
FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO NOT ONLY INVESTIGATE AND PUBLISH THIS
ONGOING STORY – BUT ALSO FOR SHAMING THE AUTHORITIES INTO ACTING ON THIS MATTER.
‘Securency, which is half owned and supervised by the RBA, has been charged with allegedly bribing or conspiring to bribe foreign officials in Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia.
NPA, which is fully owned and supervised by the RBA, has been charged with allegedly bribing or conspiring to bribe foreign officials in Indonesia, Malaysia and Nepal.
NPA prints banknotes on polymer substrate made by Securency. Court orders prevent the publication of developments in the prosecution of Securency and NPA as corporate entities.
The scandal has been a major embarrassment for the RBA, with unresolved questions over why senior bank officials chose not to refer to police explicit information suggesting corruption by its subsidiaries when it first emerged in 2007.
Federal police were asked to investigate in May 2009 following The Age’s reporting of suspect multimillion-dollar payments by Securency into tax haven bank accounts of several overseas businessmen with dubious pasts.’
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/guilty-plea-in-rba-scandal-20120718-22ap8.html#ixzz210W0KKck
IT IS TIME AUSTRALIA FOLLOWED THE LEAD OF THE UK AND THE USA
AND PUT THE RBA AND BANKS UNDER THE PUBLIC SCRUTINY OF A ROYAL COMMISSION, OR EQUIVALENT, WITH FULL POWERS,CONDUCTED WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR.
TELL THEM THEY’RE DREAMIN’
THANK GOODNESS SLATER AND GORDON ARE ON THE CASE!
THIS FROM THE WALL STREET JOURNAL: –
‘Australian law firm Slater & Gordon has already been approached by several companies and investors about filing for compensation over investments in products that reference Libor, in what Practice Group Leader Van Moulis said may become “one of the largest damages claims for class actions in Australia.”’
CHECK OUT THE PAPER TRAIL: –
‘The paper traded is issued by so-called prime banks, which are elected by AFMA’s members. The prime banks are currently Australia’s big four lenders–Australia & New Zealand Banking Group Ltd. (ANZ.AU), Commonwealth Bank of Australia (CBA.AU), National Australia Bank Ltd. (NAB.AU) and Westpac Banking Corp. (WBC.AU).’
http://blogs.wsj.com/dealjournalaustralia/2012/07/19/australia-may-be-model-for-libor-reform/
MORE LIBORATION – FROM ABC PM: –
‘Australian law firm Slater & Gordon has already been approached by several companies and investors about filing for compensation over investments in products that reference Libor, in what Practice Group Leader Van Moulis said may become “one of the largest damages claims for class actions in Australia.”’
‘LEXI METHERELL: Most of the Australian banks PM contacted declined to comment on their exposure to LIBOR referenced contracts.
‘But the National Australia Bank says it isn’t internally investigating the matter, and the Bank of Queensland says it hasn’t been affected by the scandal.’
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2012/s3540730.htm
NATIONAL AUSTRALIA BANK’S CLYDESDALE & YORKSHIRE BANKS UNDER INVESTIGATION IN THE UK
NATIONAL Australia Bank’s British arm has been handed another headache while it battles a downturn in the UK market, with its Clydesdale and Yorkshire banks under investigation for alleged mis-selling of interest rate hedges.
If the Financial Services Authority’s review finds the Clydesdale and Yorkshire banks were also involved, NAB will probably have to sign up to a compensation scheme that the UK big four have already committed to, according to London’s Telegraph.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/nab-facing-new-headache-with-british-banks-under-investigation-20120718-22aks.html#ixzz214lCQh3e
SKY NEWS: UK WATCHDOG TO PROBE NAB’S UK BRANCH
http://www.skynews.com.au/finance/article.aspx?id=773179
AND FROM THE OZ: –
‘The ethical issue surrounding the HSBC money laundering scandal for Mexican drug lords and Middle East terrorist groups hasn’t helped the banks’ cause either. The US Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) runs strict tests for banks operating in restricted countries, which appear to have caught HSBC and angered the US Senate. NAB and ANZ not so long ago fell foul of the same rules but on a minor scale.
The Australian banks will suffer from the same GFC-inspired regulatory backlash. The ethical vacuum apparent in some bank headquarters will, of course, destroy any attempts to minimise the impact. It’s up to the bank boards to lead the response by showing they are willing to clean up their own mess.’
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/asciano-boss-mullen-should-have-been-upfront/story-e6frg9io-1226429429214
NATIONAL AUSTRALIA BANK’S STAKE IN ECHO GROUP
FROM REUTERS ( US)
National Australia Bank Limited Acquires Stake In Echo Entertainment Group Ltd
Friday, 20 Jul 2012 01:49am EDT
Echo Entertainment Group Ltd announced that National Australia Bank Limited and its associated entities became a substantial shareholder in the Company on July 17, 2012, with relevant interests held totaling 39,382,370 ordinary shares, representing 5.13% of the issued fully paid ordinary capital.
http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/NAB.AX/key-developments/article/2576048
WONDER WHAT THE REV TIM COSTELLO, CO-CHAIR OF THE NAB ADVISORY COUNCIL OF CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY ( AND CEO OF WORLD VISION )
THINKS ABOUT THAT ?
MORE OF NAB’S SCANDALOUS AND SHONKY FINANCIAL CRIMES: –
THIS ONE COST NAB SHAREHOLDERS AND CUSTOMERS $360MILLION!
July 2006 – David Bullen and Vince Ficarra, two former foreign exchange options dealers at National Australia Bank, jailed after a 2004 scandal that cost NAB $360 million. They were found guilty of making false trades to safeguard bonuses and hide losses, and joined other former NAB traders Luke Duffy and Gianni Gray in prison. Bullen had already published “Fake: My life as a rogue trader”, about how he had replaced hard drinking and drugs with Buddhism.
http://m.theage.com.au/business/world-business/rogues-gallery-of-financial-crime-20110915-1kbjx.html
Tess,
I’m not sure if this is the right thread to comment to you on, but I thought I’d offer you my support for you in your battle with the National Bank.
I only became aware of it at all after I looked up your bio details on this site. It is appalling what happened to you. I learned about this very late and only picked up fragments from posts here. I don’t know how far your legal action has got, but I wish you luck on that.
I can offer some empathy because of a past experience I had in an earlier life as an Employment Counsellor with the CES in the 90s.
The gent I interviewed did not look at all well. From memory, he was in his mid-fifties, but looked at least 20 years older. The story he told me shocked me.
He’d found himself unemployed in his mid-forties, always a difficult time to find work in country Victoria, especially following the early 90s recession.
In desperation he found a businessman prepared to employ him, but only on condition that he went guarantor at the bank to enable the businessman to get finance. He unwisely agreed to that (you do things like that when you’re desperate to obtain work).
Within a year or so the business had gone broke, he’d lost his job, and the bank sought to reclaim their money from this man as guarantor. It meant that in the process the bank seized the title of his house.
I don’t know quite how it occurred from there, but this man was to discover the shocking truth, possibly through his lawyer. His employer had been bankrupt before- may even still have been one!
Neither the employer nor the bank disclosed that to him when he was taken to the bank to sign the guarantor papers. There was no way the bank could advance this rogue money. He found a way around it by getting a guarantor. He just didn’t disclose that little matter to my client. And neither did the bank.
It was bad enough to lose his house. To discover that the bank had been complicit in allowing it to happen, without a word of advice to this man, was quite likely a crime in itself, and certainly unethical.
He sought compensation from the bank. That led to complications not unlike the Catholic Church sexual abuse ones. The manager was shifted on elsewhere, as were any others connected with the case.
There were delays in getting it to court because of the absence of staff and statements. And the bank then followed a pathway which might touch a chord with your case.
They strongly contested the charges. By the time it reached the courts, their lawyers would then seek an adjournment presumably to gather more evidence. Delays of this sort strung the case before the courts out for over two years.
The aim seemed to be pure bastardry. The bank had deeper pockets and therefore could afford to keep delaying the case. In the meantime, there was a good chance that lack of funds would compel this man to give up. (He was never offered a settlement or even an admission of bank fault or deception throughout this time.)
Somehow, possibly through Legal Aid or pro bono work, he was able to continue, although the stress ruined his health (part of the reason he was my client). He got it to court over two years after it was first raised as an action.
As soon as it was finally before the court, the bank’s lawyers immediately pleaded guilty and sought a settlement. The man was at least able to get his losses back and his legal costs. (He should have got punitive damages but I think was too exhausted by the process.)
But he would never get his health back, and who knows what effect the whole episode had on the rest of his family?
I was never more disgusted, not only with the original loan managers but with the bank’s attitude in using the system to see if they could break this man. They didn’t quite succeed, but he still paid far too high a price.
The irony is, I don’t know the name of the bank. Suffice to say that it could have been any one of them.
I hope you get them.
Dear GORGEOUS DUNNY, what you’ve written here is very saddening and many of us will be able to closely identify with particular aspects.
I would love to know more about your work as a counsellor with the CES. It seems you didn’t treat people as mere statistics.
I hope that man – and his family – have had teh chance to reclaim their life, although I suspect a part of it will forever be held to ransom by the bank and the judicial system for what they did to him.
I am moved that you took the trouble to find this article.
You’re quite a person yourself, Tess. To my loss and shame, I’d not heard of you until your excellent piece on Obama.
That encouraged me to look you up, and there I ran across some of your sorry history with the National Bank, including the video of them taking your property. I hope you are faring better now than earlier.
You’re right about my time as a CES Employment Counsellor. I did always try to treat people as human beings. In some respects, perhaps because of my nature, I found some of it relatively simple.
All many people needed was someone to listen to them. Unfortunately the mainstream staff are to governed by regulation and ambition and usually seek the ‘safest’ solution – one that won’t get them into trouble. Usually that is unrelated to the enquirer’s needs, and will not lead to a satisfactory outcome for anybody.
My work was a little outside the direct controls of administration, which was necessary to take a fresh look at a dilemma and think outside the square. And it was probably just as well, because a lot climbing the greasy pole of ambition did not think much of me.
I had a reputation for pushing the boundaries of the manuals and regulations. Oddly enough, I never saw it quite like that. I always worked within our administrative guidelines. What I did differently was to look at the aim/intention of a particular regulation and NOT merely the language of it.
It was clear from the preambles what the intention was (e.g. to assist a disabled person into the workforce so that they could compete equally) and not get into a tangle on the grammar of the wording. Despite this reputation, not one of my interpretations was ever overruled, even though they often set new precedents(which every bureaucrat dreads).
Right up until my redundancy I had various petty clerks and managers trying to tell me how something couldn’t be done, and I sometimes wasted useful time in such heated arguments. But I prevailed. I was always a glass half full person.
My proudest achievement I only found out at our redundancy party at our Area Office in Bendigo. I mentioned in passing that right to the very end, on the way to Bendigo from Warrnambool, I did a DAWS (Disabled Apprentice Wage Subsidy) sign-up at Amphitheatre, 12 hours before the CES was abolished.
I laughingly told the tale at our farewell party. One of the Bendigo managers chimed in, “Ah Warrnambool (my base). The DAWS capital of Australia.” And apparently it was true. Our region had placed more people under DAWS than any other in Australia.
Of course, it was a combined effort, with Bill Johnson an extraordinary enthusiast at Western District Employment Access (our disability placement agency), but it still warms my heart thinking about it. We rushed that Amphitheatre placement because we didn’t know how long the DAWS program would last after Howard dumped the CES.
I’d had a very good earlier career with South Australian Tourism in Sydney in the 70s, being Assistant Manager for 8 years and then Manager for 6 years. (My pen-name is actually taken from a nickname John Hepworth had given Don Dunstan, who remains my political hero.) While Manager I did a BA, double majoring in English, through University of New England. The experience from that greatly aided my later counselling work.
Here I am boasting, but it was just to give you a bigger picture of me. I’m an old feller now at 70 and have finally given up cab driving, which I’d done to get my daughters through high school and on to Uni.
So, with a bit of luck I can finally turn to writing, which at one point half a lifetime ago was my primary interest.
Dear GORGEOUS DUNNY, so much I want to say in relation to what you’ve written, and will in another comment – but have to ask you – do you mean Dear JOHN HEPWORTH the writer ? And do you remember his mate JOHN HINDLE and the books they wrote together ?
Please let me know. You sound such a treasure of a Human Being.
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The John Hepworth indeed, Tess. I used to love him and Leunig on the back page of Nation Review each week. Ah, Nation Review: them’s were the days, Tess! I used to live for it coming out each week.
I vaguely remember John Hindle. He was a bit plump, and a pretty good writer if memory serves. I think he did a story once about being mugged in New York, and through some chance or another the mugger actually finished up helping him. He ended the story, rewording that old Fats Waller number to, “You meet the nicest muggers in New York.”
I wasn’t aware that Heppy and Hindle co-wrote anything. I did stumble across a novel Hepworth had written on his WWII experiences mostly in New Guinea. Hepworth did not pubish it at the time and was believed to be rather dissatisfied with it (it was semi-autobiographical).
After his death another friend of his from Nation Review published it posthumously. It was actually pretty good, and Heppy might have sold himself short on it. Bob Ellis (another NR writer) did a foreword.
I should’ve mentioned, too, that when I took on my degree (didn’t need to, since I was already management, but wanted to), it was a consequence of Gough’s free tertiary education, albeit by the time I started (77) it was under Malcolm Fraser.
I haven’t heard anything of John Hindle for years. Is he still around? A few years back at Target, I managed to get a paperback of the Nation Review years with intro by Richard Walsh. I was saddened to discover that Richard Beckett (one of the early founders and Sam Orr in food criticism) had died. I used to love his bursts of fury.
I’m pretty chuffed by your fine words, Tess. I might just look you up for lunch or something next time I’m in Melbourne (I assume you’re there) when I’m down there visiting my daughters who are at Carlton.
Not that I’m hinting at anything romantic as such, but … I am free these days (in a separated status, but in same household as Ex).
I’m not used to this much appreciation and it’s pretty good!
Kind Regards
Don
Dear GORGEOUS DUNNY, this is amazing, who one meets on INDEPENDENT AUSTRALIA!
If the two JOHNS – HEPWORTH AND HINDLE were still alive, I’ll wager they would write for us.
A book they wrote together was about a hilarious journey on a River – the Murray I think.
John Hindle was on radio – I think on the ABC and 3AW.
Occasionally, I used to pop around to John’s home,not often enough, and last I saw him, he was rather frail and not been well for some time. He and his Loved Ones were always so welcoming and hospitable.
This was yonks ago Don.
* Re co-habitating with your Ex. This is becoming increasingly common, and I think you should contribute an article on the subject. What say you ? Wouldn’t it be beaut if you and your Ex wrote it together.
And of course, Carlton was very much the country of the TWO JOHNNIES as I called them, the University Cafe,Jimmy Watson’s – rather lonnnnnnnnnnng lunches, Cafe Paradiso……..
I hope we are able to catch up, and in Carlton, so we can toast John Hepworth, John Hindle and other colourful personalities that bless our memories.
Thanks for that, Tess.
I have only just recently been looking afresh at my life in the 60s and 70s. (I’d suppressed a lot of it because of a few traumas I went through in the early 80s, and then later because of the stormy marriage I’d been in.)
What surprised me was how many good times and achievements I had from that era. It’s probably the first time (on father’s day this year) that I’d ever mentioned any of it to my older daughter.
I think I surprised myself and her at the richness of my experience. Although she’s now 26, it’s about the first time I can remember feeling a proud father to her. I enjoyed her shining eyes and smiles and laughter all the more.
It was an incongruous time in many respects. My closest friends were non-conformists (for a while hippy protesters) while my day job in government tourism and suits was quite conservative. I did apply my accumulated values to my work, however, which was definitely not careerist. As you say, people should always count for more than regulations and statistics.
As for co-habiting, I don’t know if it will last forever. It’s just that neither of us wants to carve up our assets. We do actually get on a lot better than previously, but she is a difficult person in human relations.
Without being unkind to her, she is capable of doing and learning anything. She is far more competent and handier than I am around the house. But she doesn’t really tolerate people, having an inability to forgive, and thus is socially dysfunctional.
She has good manners and a cheerful personality on acquaintance, but is happier keeping her distance from people. She’s even fallen out with our daughters, which is tragic because of her love for them.
She’s a very private person and I’d doubt she’d agree to what you suggest. She hates anyone to know of her personal matters. I could write on it, but I doubt it could be a joint effort.
I would very much like that opportunity to catch up with you in Melbourne, ideally as you suggest at one or more of the cafes and bars in Carlton. We could toast many memories of great days past.
Regards
Don
Dear GORGEOUS DUNNY ( I had wondered about your nommie de plummie and so glad you explained it because I wouldn’t have found out about John Hepworth…..and all the connections!)
I’m so glad that this talk has unlocked some doors kept closed for a while – and given that they are pleasant and cheery memories, then
always keep that door ajar a little.
Writing and yarning can be very therapeutic. It sounds as if you’ve been very hard on yourself Don and to read of your daughter’s response about her Dad, is very moving and a good lesson to us all.
And not the first lesson you’ve taught us in your comments, either.
‘What surprised me was how many good times and achievements I had from that era. It’s probably the first time (on father’s day this year) that I’d ever mentioned any of it to my older daughter. ‘
This says a lot Gorgeous Dunny.
And I do understand about co-writing an article and now that you’ve explained the circumstances, hope you will still consider contributing your own article.
I am so sorry to hear of the earlier trauma in your life GD and it sounds to me as if you’ve had to confront some mighty challenges.
And yet you still find time to reach out to others.
Amazing.
You’re a very good listener and very understanding, Tess. Looks like I still have an ego because I’m warming very much to your kind words.
I’m not too sure about being too hard on myself. A few people (including Ex) would say I’m not hard enough and a bit lazy. But I understand, I think, what you mean.
As an adult I developed an attitude evolving from my family and long-past religious/philosophy values of trying to do whatever I do with a clear conscience. That meant asking myself if I had acted fairly and respectfully. It led to dilemmas at times at work, and in my personal I sometimes got myself into tangles about it. (My sister-in-law is convinced that that is why I’ve fared so badly with women. I moralise and think about it too much!)
I should have ended my marriage about a decade or more before I finally did, and definitely two years back when it became clearer how impossible and destructive it was. But I kept asking myself, ‘Is it right to abandon the mother of our children over what I’d say was a mental illness?’ In addition, she is Philippine-born, and I brought her to this country 27 years ago. So I procrastinated, at considerable cost to my own health.
In the end, it was her that made the break (albeit, it was her fury and not necessarily what she wanted) and I accepted it and didn’t relent. She, too, has come around to acceptance, and we can both manage now without the stress.
You are right, that I did reach out in my work (where the counselling work I did was the best achievement of my working life) through my work with Lifeline and later through my writing and blog-posting. In some ways I think it was my way of coping and remaining sane.
I am gradually getting back to good health and fitness – so much easier now that I’m in control of my life again. I’m still about 25k over my ideal weight, but a lot closer to if now than 6 months ago. I’ll get there, but it’ll still take a few more months.
Positive feedback, as I know from counselling, is very encouraging for that progress. I have that from some of those seeing me, but your words have had a special place in restoring my confidence, Tess. All the more reason to look forward to meeting you.
Kind regards
Don
Dear GORGEOUS DUNNY, to quote the song ‘ Ego is not a dirty word. ‘
Given that we are the sum of our parts, I think your life experiences and the way you applied your eethical credo in your work, would have been so healing,helpful and productive in your counselling work.
Words and support of one another is so important.
I’ve always been confused at how some people think it’s a sign of weakness telling someone they’re fabulous. I just don’t get that.
Maybe I’ve stood around too many gravesites where people mutter about how beaut the Dear Departed was. But did we tell them that
when they were alive ?
It’s great to read that you are gradually managing to get your life
and circumstances in order and a big encouragement to us all.
We must build on our small accomplishments and give them respect.
Achievements don’t have to be a ‘ big ticket ‘ item every time.
Go Don!!!!!!!
Thanks for that, Tess. I love your encouragement! It helps bring back other things to me.
“Given that we are the sum of our parts, I think your life experiences and the way you applied your ethical credo in your work, would have been so healing,helpful and productive in your counselling work. ”
Very astute, Tess, and reminding me of other positives I’d more or less put aside (as you say, keep a door open). My client group was virtually all the disadvantaged demographics: long-term unemployed, single parents trying to return to the workforce, people with disabilities, NESB migrants, victims of crime, ex-offenders, aboriginals, youth unemployed, older unemployed workers – just about anybody that the CES didn’t know what to do with.
Some had been unemployed for years and had either given up, despaired, or were very close to it. It required quite a bit of questioning skill to find out what motivated or interested them, and then appealing to those interests and helping map out a way of getting to them.
I did do well with what many had written off as “hopeless” cases. In many respects, I felt a sense of destiny with some, that the range and peculiarity of my education and life experiences, even my setbacks seemed to come together for this work.
Even my sales/marketing experience was useful in boosting up an under-confident client, or in “selling” an employer on giving someone a chance.
“Achievements don’t have to be a ‘ big ticket ‘ item every time.”
Very true. I can remember in Warrnambool actually thinking things out along exactly those lines. I’d been disappointed with the way ‘deregulation’ was taking us, but reasoned that if I couldn’t change the world I could at least have an influence at micro level.
I think there was a Middle Ages prayer along the lines of living with the things you could not change and working on those that you could. I adapted to that. Put another way, be grateful for small blessings.
You don’t seem to mind length – so I’ll give you a favourite Hepworth yarn from the NR days (not in his language unfortunately). He was brought up in Kalgoorlie and in his youth was in a local tennis club.
He said that his club had a particular advantage for home matches. What passed for their toilets (probably a galvanised iron shed) was shabby and rarely cleaned. It was littered with redback spiders.
Heppy said that at home matches, the visiting ladies would enter, only to make a very hurried retreat. As a consequence they had to hold on tight and his home team gained an advantage in the games.
Because of it (at least according to Heppy) the club adopted a policy of never cleaning it out.
Warm regards, Tess
Don
Dear GORGEOUS DUNNY, thanks for the Happy Heppy giggle, and I can just visualise him telling that yarn – did he have his beard in the days you knew him – I used to tease him that he should get out his baby photos, to prove that he was born with his beard!
Love that yarn! Thanks for telling it.
The more I read your comments, the more I feel that a personalised article on your days as a counsellor, would be compelling – so will you please consider that.
We rarely read anything from the point of view of counsellors – and you have such an unusual story to tell.
The other day, I was telling a cobber about your experiences and he
was also talking about certain Centrelink people he knew/knows who
just had nothing but contempt and hatred ( yes he used that word ) for the unemployed.
* Re: Comments: Don, at INDEPENDENT AUSTRALIA, we really value our commentators and consider you part of the IA Family. We have many regulars and personalities and particular characteristics often shine through – and often there is robust dialogue between commentators, and very often shared experiences and support and encouragement. I just love this aspect, and I know our Managing Editor, DAVID DONOVAN does too.
*Discourse is so important to our diverse community. Often, there’s a lot of wisdom and history in comments – and so often a great sense of humour and irony.
* Also, I consider comments to be Public Op Eds.
So glad Don, that you are beginning to give yourself credit for your quite profound achievements – think of how many lives you have helped to turn around because you treated people with respect and humanity and dignity.
Don’t forget to treat yourself the same way Dear Don.
Is Don. Is good!
Tess,
I’m very sorry about the delay in getting back to you. The fire that took out Telstra’s Warrnambool Exchange put us all offline.
I’ve only just had services restored this morning. (After a fortnight! If a terrorist really wanted to create havoc, they’d be much more effective taking out telecom exchanges than bombing schools.)
Many thanks for your encouraging comments. I’ve greatly enjoyed those and our dialogue. On NR, I seem to remember (confirming your comments on Heppy) that someone, possibly Hindle or Beckett, complaining that Hepworth, despite his age and limited use of one arm, drew quite disproportionate appeal from the young women (much to their dismay) simply because he was so funny.
I’m still in catch-up mode with everything at the moment. So I’ll take a little while to absorb what you’ve said. I like the idea of contributing, and will do some work on it.
Warm regards, and I still want to meet you. Will have to plan a trip to Melbourne.
Don
Tess,
Have mostly been offline due to the Telstra Warrnambool fire. The connection is now back but unstable. Will follow-up the idea of posting some stories from my Employment Counsellor experiences.
You were remarkably perceptive. It is a rich vein. I’ve done one brief piece already, and am working on another. And my memory is coming back enough to post at least 3 or 4 others.
Will keep you posted.
Don
Dear GORGEOUS DUNNY, glad to hear you’re back online and it is outrageous that you’ve all been ‘ off air ‘ and it is indeed frightening how easy it is to disable communications and once again confirms how poorly regional Victoria/Australia is serviced and treated as lesser citizens.
Dear GORGEOUS DUNNY, just read your latest comment and great news about your article(s).
Please send them to DAVID DONOVAN, our Managing Editor at :
editor@independentaustralia.net
Onya, Don!