Some men feel that they have the right to rob us not only of our innocence and our right to feel safe in our own community, but of our sense of decency, writes Denise Allen.
TODAY, and for the past few days, I – like thousands and thousands of other people, both women and men, in Melbourne and around Australia – have been feeling quite gutted.
My emotions are raw, I have an overwhelming sense of sadness and I’m angry.
I’m angry and so very sad that a lovely young woman’s life has come to such a tragic and horrible end simply because she choose to walk 700 metres alone, in the early hours of the morning, along a busy, lively, inner suburban main road to her home.
I cannot begin to imagine the pain and immense grief Jill Meaghers husband, parents and brother, extended family and friends must be enduring.
My daughter has lived in this community for some years and I know the vulnerability she now feels because an evil man has stolen the innocence of her local community.
Multiply that by a million+ and you will have some idea of Jill’s family’s grief.
I believe Jill’s passing has hit home to so many of us because, at the end of the day, she was just like one of our own. A daughter, a sister, a friend. She worked for one of our high profile radio stations, the ABC, where household names struggled with their emotions all week as they continued to talk to us over the airwaves and attempt to deliver their normal programming.
Jill’s disappearance and subsequent tragic passing became very, and all too, real to us all.
But it is curious the way the public react to such violence perpetrated in our streets.
In June 2011, a young schoolgirl Siriyakorn Siriboon (known as Bung) of Thai descent, living in Australia in the outer suburb Melbourne suburb of Boronia with her mother and step-father, was snatched from a suburban street on her way to school, never to be seen again.
The reaction was one of absolute shock and parents in the vicinity took extra vigil over their children for a few weeks.
No one marched in the street.
Twelve months ago, a known prostitute Jazzy O was murdered in Port Melbourne, another quiet unassuming affluent suburb.
No one marched in the streets.
Why then, would the violence perpetrated on a beautiful young middle class woman living in a trendy inner suburb of Melbourne cause such an outpouring of grief, when the abduction of a young Thai girl living in an outer suburb and the murder of a prostitute could not.
Because to the majority of Australians she was just like us. One of us.
She was not a young Thai schoolgirl from the suburbs. She was not a prostitute.
For some strange inexplicable reason, we do not seem to identify with those who we deem “different”.
We still feel “shocked”. But we don’t feel the overwhelming sense of inner grief we feel for someone who is “just like us”.
Reflecting on this and the public’s reaction, I now look back in sorrow at the immense grief that Bung’s mother and stepfather and Jazzy O’s family have been feeling for the past twelve months and how little so many of us cared about their loss.
The attack on Jill has proved that this sort of violence can happen to middle class professional young women.
Although there have been many organisations fighting the good fight against violence towards women, hopefully the powerful march yesterday in Sydney Road, Brunswick, will be the continuance of a now very powerful and vocal movement that will continue the fight that says we will not tolerate this anywhere, anymore, on anyone.
Jill’s loss, although tragically, painfully sad, will not have been in vain. It has opened the eyes and hearts of so many to the violence perpetrated in our suburban streets on women of all ages, race and class.
They have marched in the streets now ― for Jill, for Bung, for Jazzy O and for all women who have been victims of violent crime.
Then, on a day when around 30,000 people marched in peace and solidarity against violence towards all women along Sydney Road Brunswick, we once again – but certainly not to the same extent – have our sense of decency and what’s right shattered by the insensitive and cruel comments toward our Prime Minister by radio shock jock Alan Jones.
I do not in any way liken Jill Meagher’s tragic loss and the grief that her family and friends are feeling with Jones insensitive cruel comments.
My point is that some men feel that they have the right to rob us not only of our innocence and our right to feel safe in our own community, but of our sense of decency. That they feel they have the right to behave in either a violent, sadistic, misogynist, cruel way and believe they can get away with it.
Alan Jones has been spewing his vile comments about the PM for the past two years but this most recent contribution to his litany of abusive rantings has sunk even him to a new low.
What has become of our country where the ugliness of egotistical human beings like Jones think they can say what they like and then only offer an apology when the comments in question reach social media and there is an outcry of disgust?
The comments were made a week ago at a Sydney University Young Liberal function and only came to light because a journalist at the function had taped Jones’s speech.
Jones, in his so called apology at a press conference yesterday morning, alluded to the fact that it was a “private function”, implying that the comments were ok to make but should never have been reported to the outside world.
He then blamed someone else for saying the comments in the first place ― at a young boys birthday party no less. One can only imagine the standards and morals by which this young boy is being raised, if this is the sort of conversation being carried on at his party. And having someone with Jones’s background as his Godfather is a whole new article.
The whole point of this article is to say “enough is enough”.
We have a right to feel safe in our streets.
We have a right to decency and respect in our political discourse.
Men do not have the right to abuse our trust, our gender, our vulnerability and sense of decency.

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17 Comments
Excellent piece by Denise Allen: 'Jill Meagher and Alan Jones'. http://t.co/l0d7mg5z
@clementine_ford @catherinedeveny Jones's vile words-a form of violence & violation.
http://t.co/9J8iCGjy
Excellent piece by Denise Allen: 'Jill Meagher and Alan Jones'. http://t.co/l0d7mg5z
Excellent piece by Denise Allen: 'Jill Meagher and Alan Jones'. http://t.co/l0d7mg5z
Men Do Not have the right to Abuse is – Jill Meagher and Alan Jones | Independent Australia – http://t.co/wMQWwx7W #Enough
Yes. A totally appropriate response. And it is true that Alan Jones is a male; presumably the other perpetrators were too.
But your last line makes the conversation partisan … ‘c’mon men, lift your game!’ Understood. But how far will we get like that? Men are families’ sons. Dysfunctional men, dysfunctional families, dysfunctional community? Individual responsibility?
At last we have jones out in the open, Denise, and it is his turn to feel the heat. The Young Libs must be a real nice lot!!!
Denise. I agree our comments regarding Alan Jones; however I am disappointed in your last line “Men do not have the right to abuse our trust, our gender, our vulnerability and sense of decency” You are now implying that women do have a right to abuse men. That is disappointing. No gender has a right to abuse the opposite gender. That is the bottom line.
We old girls fought a revolution to be equal, that means we are allowed to give as good as we get.
I do get tired of a new generation of girls presuming that because we are girls we are more precious.
The rape and murder of Jill was appalling, but where were the white people when Indians were being slaughtered in the streets of Melbourne.
Geoff I agree with you…but I am writing about the issues at immediately at hand….but you are right no one has the right to abuse anyones sense of trust, gender, vulnerability and decency…
MarilynS…you are right too…violence is not acceptable against anyone – I think I tried to make that clear in my comments…again I am writing re the immediate issues….
The contrast plotted here reminds me of the murder in Sydney of gangster moll / prostitute / corruption whistleblower Sally Anne Huckstep near the time of the murder of outer suburban beauty queen Annita Cobby, back in the 80s.
The media induced public responses were starkly different.
Alan Jones comes in as part of the media that orchestrates public feeling.
I’ve never understood his appeal to his listeners. You can only get so far by inducing concocted umbrage at anything that looks a little bit different.
I’ll always be on the side of Clover Moore and her bike lanes, and Gillard an her broad range of Labor reforms, against bully boy prats like Alan Jones.
He is a bully with a persecution complex. That is about as ugly as a bloke can get.
I don’t want to see him shut down by authoritarian edict. I’d rather watch as his audience wise up and turn him off in distaste.
Having reflected upon the tragic loss and public outpouring over the murder of Jill Meagher, I must thankyou for this brave and insightful article. All decent humans must stand up against the level of public misogyny and violence that has been allowed to pass without criticism by the msm in Australia. If it can be directed at just one woman then it allows all women to become targets.
“Enough is enough” !!! …. “Men don’t have the right to abuse our trust, our gender, our vunerability, and our sense of decency” !!!! When are we going to listen to these desperate cries from women ???? If a so called veteran radio personality can arrogantly assume he can get away with the outrageously glib claim he has to (simply) “man up” and say he just got it wrong on the night, after he has just used his wretched and well rehearsed vitriolic hateful “personality” status to influence a bunch of would be could be impressionable young Libs to hold the same bilious values about our current Prime Minister Julia Gillard, then this is an indictment on our media, our society. This nasty little well rehearsed creep Alan Jones should be banished from our media for good now. Alan jones has made millions being the mega voice of the bigotted, the chauvanist, the mysogynist ……. the White Trash in our society. How would Julia Gillard have felt that day when she heard those nasty, disrespectful and cowardly comments from the master of such. And yes Whatismore, you are so right!!! If it can be directed at just one women, then all women are targets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need to see the massive public fury over these genuinely evil acts translate into action, And action is surely needed, e.g.:
There have been plenty of media reports of predatory behaviour and attempted attacks prior to the murder of Jill Meagher –in and around the same streets – but nothing was done.
Melbourne has had a reputation, for several years now, as a violent city, where people were not safe to walk the streets at night – again, nothing, or nothing effective, was done, despite all the murders and assaults.
Another Melbourne predator (a Toorak product, this time), described himself, in writing, as a violent sexual predator, with no regards for the rights of others. He was stalking the 5 year old daughter of a senior Labor politician, among his many targets.
The “violent sexual predator” came up before a judge – whom I will refrain from naming, so IA doesn’t get sued for defamation, and the judge said to him, in effect;
“WELL, YOU’RE OUR BOY!” – and the judge then ordered the police to supply the predator with the new address of one of his five year old targets (who had been placed in hiding because of the predator’s stalking).
The same nut case was smashing his way into a girl’s bedroom in a university residential college – so panicking university staff rang the police emergency number, and were told that the police were under orders not to interfere with the would be rapist’s activities in any way.
All of this is a matter of public and court record – I can provide names, dates, court references — and indicates the culture and attitudes that has penetrated our judiciary — an attitude that says any female, adult, child, even the daughter of someone at the top of the Labor Party, is fair game for a nut case predator – one who just happened to also be prime suspect in several rapes and in at least two murders.
It is well and truly time that we say we WILL NO LONGER TOLERATE THIS SORT OF EVIL IN OUR STREETS AND IN OUR COMMUNITY”.
And that we will no longer tolerate the officials, lawyers, judges – whose perks and salaries are all paid by the taxpayer — like their bureaucrats, who enable and encourage evil and sadistic cruelty.
The most amazing fact about the Jones’ recording is that this is a terrific News Ltd scoop and they have shown up Fairfax to be the lightweight smug bunch of hacks they have become over the past 5 years.
But why have News tuned on Jones?. He is their natural ally. I don’t think Jones fully realises that is basically finished as a broadcaster even if he remains on radio,. Despite their gung ho talk, the Bishops (who wants to hear her anyway?) and Abbotts won’t be rushing to 2GB any day soon.
As to the shocking murder in Melbourne : of course our hearts go out and it it was awful dreadful and distressing. But it reminds of the Maddie McCann disappearance which gobbled up all the news resources while a dozen other kids who disappeared in Europe that year got ignored.
The media has a lot to answer for.
“WELL, YOU’RE OUR BOY!” – and the judge then ordered the police to supply the predator with the new address of one of his five year old targets (who had been placed in hiding because of the predator’s stalking).
The same nut case was smashing his way into a girl’s bedroom in a university residential college – so panicking university staff rang the police emergency number, and were told that the police were under orders not to interfere with the would be rapist’s activities in any way.
All of this is a matter of public and court record – I can provide names, dates, court references — and indicates the culture and attitudes that has penetrated our judiciary — an attitude that says any female, adult, child, even the daughter of someone at the top of the Labor Party, is fair game for a nut case predator – one who just happened to also be prime suspect in several rapes and in at leastwo murders.
Excuse me?
You know all this and do nothing about it?
Yeah, I did a lot about it:
I got exiled for it, my bank accounts were cleaned out, I haven’t been able to get back my Australian passport in over a decade (I am 5th or 6th generation Australian) our home was stolen, I survived five shootings, over 60 burglaries (almost all of them were thefts of (only) files), two home invasions, my daughter and I were both poisoned – I was given 3 weeks to live, and the doctors refused to treat my daughter – her weight was down to around 30 kg (she is 5 ft 7 ins tall), and her resting pulse was 200 bpm. I was half carrying her out of the doctor’s surgery – same doctor who had been panicking that she was going to die, but now he was shaking in fear, begging us to leave his surgery – he had been “gotten to” in a big way. So I figure I did enough about it to have annoyed somebody!
[Bits of our story - mainly the Defence Dept connections, and our forced exile - have been in some of the IA posts over the past year. IA is the only media site in Australia to ever publish any of it - ie via the posts, ALL other Australian media outlets - I tried them all - 60 Minutes, Fairfax, West Australian, The Herald Sun etc, killed the story.].
But maybe we fared better, much better, than someone else, a Perth lawyer, who got too close to the truth. She ended up in a shallow grave in Kings Park:
There is a very strange court case, currently running, with massive media attention, in Perth. The victim was a Perth government lawyer. The chosen patsy is her husband, a Perth QC. The victim was, very conveniently, murdered after she started asking “the wrong kind of questions” during a probe into on-going police failures in, or with the investigation into, a series of murders in Perth, (known as the “Claremont murders”).
And here is where the Melbourne connection comes in:
The WA police were reasonably open to staff at the University of Western Australia, that they were under orders to protect the suspect in a series of rapes and murders in Perth, including the Claremont serial killings. A Perth judge ordered the police to supply the suspect with the new address of one of those he was stalking – a five year old girl. Another five year old girl that he was stalking was the daughter of Kim Beazley, Leader of the federal Labor Party, leader of the federal opposition, and former Australian Defence Minister – implying that even Kim’s position was not enough to be respected by the cult within the WA judiciary and government that was doing the murders.
The protected suspect was from a prominent Melbourne family, who had senior level military (commander of the Army just before Gallipoli) and intelligence connections dating back to before the first world war. The suspect, who described himself in writing (I have a copy of the document) as a violent sexual predator with no regard for the rights of others, used to prowl the nightspots and streets of Claremont, and Melbourne, looking for targets – all the while, being under the protection of the police, and with the active encouragement of the judiciary – and probably with the protection of Australian intell agencies.
Hence, presumably, the Victoria Police failure to act on a swarm of warnings and complaints in the Brunswick area in the months prior to Jill Meagher’s murder. I assume, that the Victorian Police, like the WA Police, are under orders to back off from interfering in the predatory and murderous activities of the lawyers / judges’ chosen psychos.
Australia expelled an Israeli diplomat in 2004 (now posted to China), who got enough of the story (mainly the shooting attempts and home invasions) to be in a position to blackmail certain people in Canberra, so they booted him out before he could use what he knew. (The guy was a pest anyway, putting the hard word on any female with a Defence job, that he could — so it wasn’t that hard to cover-up the real reason for his expulsion).
A LOT of people (police, courts, government) know all this, and HAVE DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT – AMAZING!!
It is just the old power struggle coming out again – men believing themselves to be superior to women, with a right to use and abuse as they see fit. Pretty embarrassing to be male sometimes. Even more embarrassing to be a white male.
TerraAustralis – that sounds pretty intriguing (being from Perth and all). Could you point me to the IA articles on this subject that you mentioned? Thanks.
If everyone ignored this obnoxious ratbag, which Jones obviously is, we could hope that he might go away. Why anyone cares what he thinks (if that is the word) is beyond me.
MILES,
I didn’t get into the Perth & Claremont stuff in those posts. Around the same time I became a whistle-blower over the Claremont killings and the rapes at UWA, I was approached / recruited by, or on behalf of, the Defence Dept and most of the major Aust banks, to market their software.
Tess (Lawrence) has done several articles on the banks – my posts to her articles covered what I learned about our banks, and some of our Defence contractors (fraud, treason and breaches by their subsidiaries of RICO legislation in the USA – the RICO breaches translate into our banksters being in business with the Las Vegas and Chicago mafia).
Interspersed with the posts about the banksters’ treason and RICO stuff, I added a bit about what had happened to us – forced exile, the shootings etc, but I didn’t touch on the Perth stuff.
I was not the only one who knew what was happening re the protected suspect in the Claremont killings. His actions were so blatant, and so criminal, that he was bound to attract attention – and he did.
A senior police officer (no names so IA doesn’t get sued for defamation) came to Nedlands to meet a group of local business people who had identified the suspect for his likely involvement in the killings and rapes. By tha stage the police had his “violent sexual predator” handwritten profile, and the Commissioner’s office were definite that they wanted the guy locked up forever, or run out of WA forever.
Obviously, based on what police told people later, they were ordered to protect the guy. And anyone who knew of his activities was effectively neutralised.
Eg a Nedlands lawyer who identified the same suspect (and an accomplice) to police from a break and enter at Applecross was forced to give up work – his wife suddenly became so ill, that her husband retired to become her full time carer. The file he had on the suspect was cleaned out from his law firm’s files, within weeks of him quitting work.
If you saw the CCTV footage of Jill Meagher being accosted in the street by her (alleged) killer, you witnessed something almost identical to what was happening outside the UWA library. The “violent sexual predator” used to spend the early part of each night walking up and down the paths leading from the library, accosting women. the rape victims were dragged into the bushes a few metres of the paths.
Campus security knew he was there, knew what he was doing, and knew that he was not a studeny, so he had no business being on campus. But security and the university admin went out of their way to protect him – they refused, in writing, to do anything about him. It was not hard for the uni admin to intimidate staff or students who complained. The suspect had a brother on the staff at UWA, which may have had something to do with the protection.
If he failed to “get any results” around the library by 10 pm, ge then moved up Stirling Hwy to repeat his prowling around the nightspots of Claremont.
The guy used to try and on-sell (“fence” might be the right word) stuff he had stolen through local businesses in the Crawley, Nedlands and Claremont area. That was reported (multiple times) to the police. But for someone in a small business, and trying to pay the bills and the wages, and make a profit, it only takes a few hassling visits from the local council’s inspectors, to scare people off from making any more waves.
Others, like me, ended up, out of Australia – I got a letter from a Perth law firm telling me I would be arrested at any Australian airport of I ever tried to return. The arrest warrant was organised by the same judge who was protecting the rapes/murder suspect. As far as I know, that arrest warrant was dropped a while ago, but, so far, I have not been able to get back my Aust passport ( it expired after I was exiled), so I am still “out”.
The police identified a Perth judge as the main one protecting the guy. Maybe true – or maybe there is more to it – he was the product of a top private school in Melbourne, was from Toorak (probably loosely equivalent to being Melbourne’s answer to Peppermint Grove), and his family have ties into the Melbourne establishment, and the top level of Australia’s military and intell circles, that date back over a century.
The guy has a few other vices besides theft, violence and sexual predations – his other hobbies included Asian baiting and harassing Moslems – he has received coverage in the Malaysian media for this, and DFAT had to assign staff to try and hose down the political fall-out from that.
He worked with an accomplice, or as part of a group (as testified by the Nedland lawyer who identified him).
He kept a pile of newspaper clippings on the murders.
Like Bayley (the Brunswick “suspect”), he spent a lot of time in the gym.
He was arrogant, with the private school, “school-bully” attitude, that it was his right to help himself to whatever, or whoever, took his fancy.
There was an impotence clinic run by a Dr Denis Cherry in Subiaco. (I think he has since moved closer to QE II hospital, down in Nedlands). Anyway, our “violent sexual predator” was being treated for impotence by the same Dr Cherry. The combo of “violent sexual predator” and impotence clinic rang alarm bells with a lot of people.
But, obviously. not with the Australian, especially the West Australian media. They know about it, have known for years, but say and do nothing.
Mr ‘violent sexual predator” has been back and forth, free to prowl the streets of Perth and Melbourne for years. My hunch is that when the Melbourne police had reports of similar behaviour around Brunswick, they thought “It might be him!”, so they opted to back off, lest they got a rap over the knuckles or damaged their career prospects, by upsetting whoever was protecting him.
Thanks TERRA, I guess one word sums it up: WOW!
I think I know of the person you are referring to as his name was reported briefly many years ago. A guy I used to work with (quite a bit older than myself – I’m just a pup
knows him personally through working for/around him for many few years and, long before the media report came out, he suspected him of being the perons of interest in the Claremont serial killings. He as well went to police several times with his suspicions and was repeatedly told to “just ignore him”. It wasn’t until I read this thread that it reminded me of the conversations we used to have at work. Funny thing is, he (my old colleague) is harrassed constantly by several different parties, including local law enforcement and polititcians. I wonder if he even knows the reasons for his harrassment?
Unbelievable yet, strangely, believable. Nothing surprises me these days about those ‘in the know’ and in powerful circles. One rule for us, another for all of them.
Thanks MILES,
Pretty much along the lines of DENISE’s original article, there has been such a huge (tens of thousands of people marching in the street in Brunswick!!) and angry reaction to Jill Meagher’s murder, that the people who allow and encourage these pervert killers to run loose, won’t be able to do so any longer.
Meanwhile, in Perth, the wheels have been falling off the prosecution’s case against the chosen patsy (ie the victim’s husband) in the Corryn Rayney murder trial.
I think there are so many questions now being asked over both murders, re how and why they happened, that we are going to see some big changes for the better.
DENISE wrote that she had “an overwhelming sense of sadness and I’m angry”. There are probably over a million Australians who feel just as strongly, who are more than angry — furious might be a better word.
And the fury and anger is justified!